Process Over Product
By: Trevor Thomas
Language: en-us
Categories: Arts, Visual
There are two clay classes. One is tasked with replicating the perfect vase — a product. The other is told to create as many pots as possible — a process. The process group obviously makes more work, but surprisingly, they also make better work. The result runs counter to what we’re taught about control, perfection, and outcomes. This is the essence of Process Over Product: a podcast about what actually happens in the studio — the uncertainty, the decisions, pressure, and work underneath the work. Join artists Trevor Wade Thomas and Kelsey Kopp as we discuss process in the world of art.
Episodes
Identifying Your Process
Jan 09, 2026In this episode of Process Over Product, artists Trevor Wade Thomas and Kelsey Kopp focus on the actual, tangible actions that make up their studio practices.
They talk about what “process” really looks like while making work — not as a fixed formula, but as a living rhythm shaped through repetition, reflection, and experience. The conversation explores whether process is something artists find or something they slowly build over time, and what those differences reveal about temperament, materials, and ways of thinking.
Trevor and Kelsey walk through their current painting proces...
Duration: 00:19:28Finding Momentum
Jan 02, 2026In episode 3 of Process Over Product, artists Trevor Wade Thomas and Kelsey Kopp explore how momentum is actually built in the studio—especially when you’re staring at a blank surface or trying to pull a big idea into motion.
They talk through what goes into the creative thought process, how they generate and recognize usable ideas, and what they do when things go sideways mid-process. The conversation moves between mindset and action: how to make decisions when clarity hasn’t arrived yet, how to recover when a painting drifts, and how small, intentional moves...
Duration: 00:28:37Imposter Syndrome: Friend or Foe?
Dec 26, 2025In the second episode of Process Over Product, artists Trevor Wade Thomas and Kelsey Kopp confront imposter syndrome — the persistent voice of fear, doubt, and self-questioning that often surfaces in the studio.
They unpack what that voice actually is, where it comes from, and how it shows up while painting, making, and trying to move work forward. Through personal stories and studio-level reflection, they explore the ways imposter syndrome can stall decision-making, interrupt momentum, and quietly shape creative choices.
As the conversation unfolds, the episode takes an unexpected turn: ra...
Duration: 00:21:25What is process over product?
Dec 19, 2025In the first episode of Process Over Product, artists Trevor Wade Thomas and Kelsey Kopp introduce themselves and unpack what process means in their own studio practices. As painters, they discuss how process unfolds during the act of making, how it shapes decision-making, and why it matters more than outcomes. This conversation sets the foundation for exploring the uncertainty, labor, and thinking that happen beneath finished work.
Kelsey Kopp is a landscape painter whose work is rooted in observation, repetition, and sustained engagement with place. Her practice emphasizes process as a way of understanding...
Duration: 00:17:38