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In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah chat with artist and filmmaker, Jacob Dawson, who flips the script and interviews the girls. So, what happens when a soon-to-be dad realises 2026 is officially ‘The Year of the Baby’… and decides to crowdsource his entire parenting education from two women who have conceived, birthed, and (at time of recording) successfully retained their children?

Jacob everything he didn’t know he needed to know about conception, pregnancy, birth, and how not to completely lose the plot along the way. From fertile windows and freezer meals to pregnancy naps, hypnobirthing, and why...

In this fan favourite episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matty chat with two legends of New Zealand broadcasting, Jay-Jay Feeney and Dom Harvey. Well-known for their work together on The Edge Breakfast Show, Jay-Jay and Dom have shared an extraordinary journey that has seen them transition from romantic partners to business partners, redefining what it means to evolve a partnership.

From their new podcast studio, PodLab, Matty and Hannah turn the questions on these two seasoned interviewers to talk about how they managed mixing their personal and professional lives, deal with public scrutiny and entitlement, the evolution...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah make a final bid for efficiency to cover all the talking points that got lost in favour of alluring tangents. They unpack Hannah’s devastation of being emotionally manipulated by AI dog videos, debate whether a listener’s bush poo was a crime of public indecency or an approved solution, and offer inspiration for ridding yourself of Elf on a Shelf.

Hannah’s driving out the neighbours and getting duped by the false promises of petty chores, while Matty is crying real, bona fide, genuine human tears. 

A huge...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matilda get bum-clenchingly honest about relationships, emotional triggers, fear of failure, and the disappointing truth that doing “the work” doesn’t mean you’re finally “fixed”... (Wait ... what?!) It’s Matty’s turn to talk Hannah off the ledge this week!

They talk hyper-vigilance, catching petty old patterns resurfacing, the pressure to get relationships right, and why knowing too much can sometimes make things harder. From breadcrumb conversations to the immensity of merging lives, they take a confronting look at the messy middle of building healthy relationships amongst an ocean of quirks, faili...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are back together after Hannah’s pilgrimage in India to bring you a conversation covering all the HARD HITTING NEWS. Your Untidy chat is characterised by their consistency in offering you zero structure, maximum honesty, accidental wisdom, and altogether too much information, whether you wanted a discourse on butt hoses and glass bathrooms or not.

They’ll let you know how to tell if you’re in a cult, upset home appliance moguls, and enforce a group hug for the overwhelming show of solidarity from the listeners in response to the...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah chat with the unshockable Cath Hakanson, a globally renowned sex educator and founder of Sex Ed Rescue, Sex Ed Shop, and the podcast Sex Ed for Tween Parents.

Cath has helped over a million parents around the world talk to their kids about sex, bodies, gender, and relationships. Her mission is to make these conversations less cringey, more confident, and just a normal part of growing up.

Cath unpacks how to move from the early “naming body parts” phase into the next chapter: helping tweens and teens navi...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah discuss an experience every parent will relate to. When you love your kids to bits, but they’re pushing you to the edge of your coping capacity.

Hannah and Matilda unpack those big parenting moments: the ones that make you question if anyone else’s kids are losing it like this, or if it’s just yours, and what does that mean about you as a parent? They talk about handling everyone’s explosive emotions, the guilt and grief that comes with it, and how to hold space for...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are joined by friend of the show, former co-producer, and fellow podcaster Melody Thomas. Melody is the co-creator and host of The Good Sex Project podcast and BANG!, among many other great shows. She joins the girls in bed, for a conversation about the radical act of lying the f*ck down.  

Prompted by Melody’s viral Substack essay The Radical Act of Lying the F** Down, the trio explore what it means to step off the treadmill of productivity and listen to your body before it breaks. They talk...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are dealing with pet perils as visits to the vet become a family affair for Hannah, and Matty takes to the local community page in a desperate search for missing Buster.

They address the present day question of what on earth is ‘6-7’? Not just breaking millennial brains nationwide, it’s even making a boomer out of ChatGPT. Have they all reached the age of irrelevancy?

Matilda relives a school-gate parenting quandary, and Hannah gives her latest Medical Corner update. They appreciate Lily Allen for being at her li...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah pick up where they left off after Hannah rediscovers the long-lost screenshots from ‘Gareth the Weird Tinder Guy’ and his post-date text barrage. She reads them aloud to take Matty on a journey from polite ‘go wells’ to a spectacular ‘f*ck this’ emotional implosion.

Matilda shares her own encounter with an unhinged Facebook messenger whose rants somehow didn’t “violate community standards,” and the pair ponder how rejection, the internet, and a few too many can send people right off the rails.

The girls swap Halloween stories, debut the...

In this bonus episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are back with a surprise second helping from the Untidy LIVE event in Taranaki as the audience ask their burning questions to put Chelsea Winter on the spot and indulge them with a little Q&A.

Chelsea answers questions about everything from her curious move to the Taranaki coast and the magic of small-town living, to her food tours in Croatia, Italy, and upcoming trips to Vietnam and Sri Lanka. She shares what’s next with retreats, books, and a few unexpected projects on the go that you wo...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah sit down in person with the glittering, best-selling author, Chelsea Winter, for a very special live conversation with the cookbook queen, mother of two, and all-round force of divine feminine nature.

Chelsea has been part of our kitchens and hearts since MasterChef days, and she opens up about everything from her free-range childhood to following intuition, navigating motherhood solo, and finding balance between her brand and her true self.

She shares the journey from corporate burnout to MasterChef glory, her evolution through plant-based living and back to...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah return fresh (ish) from Taranaki, still riding the high of their live show with Chelsea Winter — sequins, sparkle, and sumptuous snacks. They recap the chaos, the goodie bags, and the rally driver who got them to the airport with four minutes to spare.

Somewhere between the lamb paddocks and face masks that never were, the pair cover:
• Autumns first crime,
• A return of ‘Gareth the Weird Tinder Guy,
• The must-watch reality show called Virgin Island that turns out to be surprisingly wholesome, and
• A listener story deserv...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah sit down with listener Jo Mackie to talk about one of the biggest decisions a person can make — becoming a single mother by choice.

After years of dating, freezing her eggs, and quietly shelving her dream of motherhood, Jo found herself at 43 standing at a crossroads. Either grieve the life she thought she’d have, or create it on her own. With a little push from her closest friends, a fertility specialist who declared “we’re here to make babies, Jo,” and the universe conspiring in her favour, she embarked o...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are feeling the eclipse energy, rogue chin hairs, and pending emotional housework. From cup-filling weekends and horse-riding fantasies to crying in the shower, there’s the whole spectrum of chaos, catharsis, and questionable anatomy chat you’ve come to rely upon.

They pay tribute to the late, great Nigel Latta, who left his final legacy, Lessons on Living, as a parting gift the girls are loving. They also tackle the hot topics of leggings liberation, discovering the ultimate comfy undies, and lava lamps in regrettable places. Matty’s prepping for he...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are joined by the powerhouse that is Brodie Kane, journalist, broadcaster, podcaster, author, marathon runner, army reservist, and the force behind her own media company. She’s lived a thousand lives already, and she’s not slowing down.

Naturally, they traverse frank chat about IBS in new relationships, the delicate art of introducing farting around your partner, and why returning an axe to Bunnings is a surprisingly fraught experience. Between the poo chat and laughter, Brodie also shares what redundancy taught her, how she built Brodie Kane Media from scra...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah come in hot with raging blemishes, burning thighs, and the eternal struggle between doing and not doing.

Hannah kicks things off with a surprisingly accurate sojourn into Medical Corner, while Matty recounts her painful pursuit of running a 12K with the girls, raising money for Big Brothers Big Sisters, and winning the battle of her own internal dialogue in the process, if not the race itself.

They talk about the joy of seeing your progress, the radical act of rest, and why sometimes balance is a myth...

A live show hits different ... In this mini episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah take you back to their live, sell-out show with Hayley Holt on stage in the winterless north of Warkworth. Get a taste of the vibe, the honesty, and what it feels like to be part of the audience. Hayley talks about her ‘Hard-out Holt’ party days and hear the room scheming her return to dance teaching as the conversation spirals into plans for local salsa classes and pole dancing, whether she likes it or not.

This is what it feels like to be in t...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are back with neuroscientist, Dr Sarah McKay, author of The Women’s Brain Book, Baby Brain, and Brain Health for Dummies, to flip the script about our brains in midlife. Are we really the dysfunctional crones the social narrative would have us believe? 

They dig into why we forget words, lose our keys, stumble through brain fog, and rage-sweat at night. Sarah explains these aren’t signs of a slow decline, but instead a time of transformation to something better. She reveals the good news that our brains are movin...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah surrender to the delirium of an evening recording. Hannah’s shovelling supplements into every orifice, Matty’s shovelling butter chicken into just one solitary hole, and somewhere in Christchurch, an underqualified masseuse is about to disappoint another unsuspecting client. 

Matty makes the mistake of going to a dress-up party ugly, they discuss how to deal with a sauna lurker, and whether Art could go from chest to breast.

Most importantly, the girls are going LIVE with Chelsea Winter! Sunday, 19th October in Taranaki. Join them for big laugh...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are joined by Richie Hardcore, former Muay Thai champion, educator, and speaker on healthy masculinity, mental health, and preventing gendered violence. Richie works with young people, schools, and communities across Aotearoa, bringing lived experience and practical tools into spaces where these conversations are needed most.

CONTENT WARNING: Some of this conversation may be upsetting to some listeners. This episode discusses topics including family violence, sexual violence, pornography, and toxic online influences. Please take care and choose a time and a place to listen that’s right for you.

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In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah begin with a good, cathartic rant. (You are encouraged to pause this episode and join them as needed.) Hannah’s having bad brain days, Matty’s wrestling tangled headphones, hectic mornings, running on fumes, and they’re both reaching for more self-compassion, or, at least, a little bit of acceptance. However, there’s something that can be done, and they’re doing it, even if it begins with a boiled egg and the last bit of dry old ham. 

Hannah relives the Kaikōura earthquake, and Matty questions whether she’s thrivi...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah chat to Petra Bagust, a legend of New Zealand TV, radio and podcasting, and an advocate for living her neurodiverse life out loud. If you grew up in 90s Aotearoa, you’ll know the nostalgia of Ice TV, where Petra cut her teeth creating the culturally iconic show. 30 years on, Petra is one of New Zealand’s most beloved broadcasters, presenters, a media chaplain, and the voice behind two successful podcasts, the award-winning ‘Grey Areas’ and the soulful ‘Sunday Sanctuary’. 

In this conversation, Petra takes us behind the scenes of her career...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah start out with a plan and run gleefully in the other direction. They park up in Matty’s Medical Corner for some interesting but entirely unqualified health diagnoses, coin a term for being in public just wearing your own face, and catch up on the organised chaos amply provided by each of their offspring. 

There’s chat of house parties, hangovers, and the diabolical evidence of Matty’s last big night out, which was kindly recorded for perpetuity on Paula Bennett’s podcast (linked in show notes).

In a love...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah chat to Matty McLean (or, as he would prefer ... ‘Pockets’). Best known for his years on Breakfast, Matty is a co-host on The Hits Drive with our very own Matilda Green, as well as a co-host on ‘Out the Gayte’ podcast. He’s been a weather presenter, a news reporter, and even took out Celebrity Treasure Island. This chat is full of the signature warmth, humour, and hard-won wisdom Matty is known and loved for. 

He shares what it’s taken to truly back himself in his career, how he’s navigate...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah show up with raw faces and ready for bed! Loving a segue, as they do, this leads seamlessly into a chat to unpack the revelation of Matty’s face sculpting and facing the question of if, when, or, under what conditions one should consider a little bit of Botox. Will they be the only wrinkly grannies left standing, or can we make aging cool again whilst lead an aggressive sombrero movement? 

They enjoy some secondary satisfaction courtesy of Matty’s home organisers and her new life as a woman with...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah welcome Aotearoa’s leading, (and most-munchable) somatic sexologist, Morgan Penn, to answer your most pressing questions about sex, sexuality, sexual expression, sexual attraction and sexual longevity. 

Content warning: This episode is all about sex. We will be talking about sex at length and in detail. Please choose your right moment to listen, and double-check which bluetooth speaker you’re connected to while you enjoy this episode. 

Somatic Sexologist and co-host of the multi-award-winning podcast, Sex.Life, Morgan works with individuals and couples to reconnect, and enhance their sex li...

Come for the glow worms, stay for the rants! In this episode of Untidy, Hannah’s dialling in from the road, three-quarters deep into a 12-night solo parenting road trip around Northland, while Matty’s enforcing home renos by pulling the place apart. 

But, it’s not all laughs and sandboarding, as the girls get stuck into discussing the motherhood penalty after receiving a gut-punch of an email from a listener echoing the the reality of so many women juggling caregiving with careers. The rage is real. So is the systemic failure. 

In a loop back to...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah chat to passionate dad, former professional rugby player, children’s book author, and owner and founder of nationwide wellness centres, O-Studio, Tim Bateman. Tim talks about the highs, heartbreaks, and hard-earned wisdom of raising two daughters as a young parent from the baby years to boyfriends and beyond.

Tim became a dad at 19 while juggling playing professional rugby and working towards a law degree. He determinedly built a life centred around family with the intention not just to parent, but to be a good parent. Now, with his girls in...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are delivering your regular coffee time catch-up chat and cover the full gamut of topics from eye rashes, elderly dogs, PFAS in your perfume, and if you should employ your friends and put a bounty on your future partner’s head ... Genius.

Hannah updates on her hair growth odyssey and is off to her GP with a spreadsheet of her at-home blood testing analysis, while Matilda rallies the troops to cancel party bags forever. They decide to bring back house parties, dinner parties, Matty’s DJ name, and explain the...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah invite Art Green to step aboard something of a leaky conversational boat. Ever progressively humbled from his distinguished days of being Aotearoa’s favourite Bachelor, Art’s now deeply embedded in the role of Stay At Home Dad, where he prides himself on running a tight ship. Together, he and Matty attempt to unpack the realities of swapping traditional roles, but mostly get side-tracked by divergent yarns and designing, Maurice, the perfect imaginary personal assistant.

In a chat that’s both full of hysterical giggles and uncomfortably real, Art reflec...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are joined by the fiercely insightful Emma McLean, founder of Works for Everyone, who’s on a mission to dismantle the motherhood penalty and reimagine how work and family can coexist. Emma brings 25+ years of corporate experience and the lived reality of parenting and solo-parenting three children while navigating a system that quietly punishes caregivers, especially women.

Emma talks about how workplaces edge mothers out of leadership, how returning parents get offered ‘pity roles’, and why the most important career decision you’ll ever make is who you partner with, an...

In this mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah revisit their conversation with world-renowned naturopathic doctor and women’s health expert Dr Lara Briden when they chatted all things women’s hormones. Lara reframes the way we think about perimenopause. So many women approach their late 30s and 40s with a quiet sense of dread, unsure of what’s coming or how to prepare for it. But as Lara explains, perimenopause isn’t something to fear, but something to understand. She helps us see that this season of hormonal change doesn’t mean we’re broken, and rather than an indication o...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah eventually catch up amongst cruising through the everyday chaos of parenting, partnerships, and parasites. What’s a little puking between friends? Hannah introduces her new ‘winter wife’, a Hungarian wonder woman sent directly from heaven who’s transformed her life with folded laundry, meal prep, and home-cooked lunches. Meanwhile, Matty’s (year-round) husband, Art, gets a shout-out for his superior performance managing the parenting load while Matty’s at work. He might be missing his birthday massage, but he could be in line for an at-home Pilates session ...

Matty’s moved into h...

In this mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah revisit an incredible conversation with NZ’s beloved media personality, Toni Street, as she shares the heartbreak and hidden strength behind her family’s tragic story of loss. Toni opens up about the unimaginable grief her parents endured, losing three children, and the quiet ways that grief wove through her own childhood and upbringing.

Toni reflects on how growing up in the shadow of loss shaped her family’s way of coping, communicating, and parenting. She talks about what it was like to revisit these memories while writing her book L...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are joined once again by returning guest and fan fav, sex and relationships therapist, Jo Robertson, this time to talk about the very real dangers children are facing online.

Content Warning: This episode contains discussions around child grooming and online sexual exploitation. Listener discretion is advised. Please listen with care for yourself and others around you.

With nearly two decades of professional experience in sexual health, child development, and trauma, Jo brings deep expertise to the table as she breaks down the alarming trends in online harm...

In this mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah revisit one of our most powerful conversations with author and researcher Kasey Edwards, the co-author of the books 'Raising Girls Who Like Themselves', and, 'Bringing up Boys who Like Themselves'. Kasey discusses what it really means to raise emotionally resilient boys in today’s world.

Kasey challenges the long-held idea that boys need to be ‘tough’ to survive, and suggests that resilience comes from helping boys develop emotional bravery. She explains how ‘toughness’ often leads to fragility, not strength, and why helping our boys feel, name, and carry their emotions i...

In this chaotic episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah come in hot (and festering) with gripping chat about the questionable states of their drink bottles and the confusing double standards of various hygiene rules.

Matilda gets hit on in a hotel lift and Hannah reveals how successful influencing has her with the facial skin of and infant. There’s full analysis of Apple Watch data she’s collected while having midday “Pilates” in committed example of ‘doin’ it for the pod’.

They unpack Kris Jenner’s impossibly smooth features and wonder where it ends ... and begins ... Then...

In this punchy and powerful mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah talk to parenting educator, Maggie Dent, about the impossible expectations placed on modern parents. From the myth of the perfect house to the mental load of keeping it all together, Maggie shares practical wisdom, humour, and one incredibly liberating tip that saved her sanity.

This is five precious minutes of solidarity, and, your permission slip to let go of the pressure, laugh at the chaos, and remember: you’re not failing — you’re just raising humans.

Maggie’s latest book, ‘Help Me Help My Teen’, is...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah speak with Dr Victoria Thompson, a clinical psychologist based in Ōtautahi Christchurch, about the juicy (often triggering) topic of attachment theory and how it show up in dating, relating, and parenting.

Ever wondered why you keep dating the same kind of person, feel panicked when someone pulls away, or find it hard to open up? In this episode, Dr Victoria Thompson unpacks how our early relationships shape us, how our attachment style influences how we love, connect, chase, avoid and fight in our adult lives, and, how we can u...

In this mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah talk to Dr Stacy Sims to break down the science around ice baths for women, the benefits of saunas, and if science backs up contrast therapy. Here’s the mini episode with all you need to know! The science says women need to do things differently. While the internet’s busy telling us to jump into freezing water, Stacy explains that women get the benefits of cold therapy at a much warmer temp of around 15°C. Ice baths? Overkill. And contrast therapy? Turns out, the research doesn’t really back it. For rea...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah speak with Theophila Pratt, a Gloriavale cult survivor, qualified paediatric occupational therapist, author, and fierce advocate for freedom and healing. Theo, formerly known as Honey Faithful, grew up in Gloriavale, an isolated and highly controlled Christian community on the West Coast. At 18, she was cast out after challenging the regime, with nothing but a suitcase, a ticket to Auckland, and little understanding of how the outside world worked.

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode includes discussion of religious trauma, psychological abuse, coercive control, childhood neglect, and sexual abuse. While we approach...

In this mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah talk to sex and relationships therapist, Jo Robertson, about how couples can reconnect emotionally and physically during the unsexy seasons of raising kids, working jobs, and navigating the fatigue of everyday life. Jo shares why desire doesn’t just “magically turn up at the supermarket,” how we can reframe sex as intentional intimacy, and the code words that can take a conversation from getting awkward to feeling fun.

Ever felt tapped out, touched out, or like intimacy has slipped off the priorities list? Whether you're struggling with mismatched libidos, fear o...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah (Bean) are together again and giddy with the excitement of being reunited, but not ruling out bringing new friends into the mix. From fluid friendships and actual bodily fluids, to traumatic office flashbacks and passive-aggressive colleagues, the chat is a glittering constellation of unmoderated carnage. 

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In this mini-episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah talk about what’s really on their minds — Turning into “feral dragons” with their kids, the art of repair after rupture, and why it’s not always on your preferred time schedule. There’s chat about the pressures we put on ourselves of parenting perfectly and why it’s crucial to learn how to give yourself grace and stay connected to the authenticity of your feelings. 

Grab your ice cream and listen in for a good, slightly unhinged kōrero about life’s less-than-reel-worthy moments.

To hear the full conversat...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah welcome back one of their most-loved guests, Georgia Vavasour, to take us deep into the cosmic world of Vedic astrology — or Jyotish, the ‘science of light’.

If you’ve ever wondered what the exact time of your birth might reveal about your life’s blueprint — your strengths, your ‘stuckness’, your timing, your relationships, and even your parenting, this one’s here to enlighten. Georgia, one of the world’s most experienced Vedic meditation teachers, has added Jyotish to her toolkit, and the way she deciphers charts is a lot less woo-woo and a l...

In this mini-episode of Untidy, Steph Campbell shares her extraordinary journey to heal her daughter’s extreme food intolerances. Steph found herself facing a stark reality: she would have to live indefinitely on only three foods for breakfast, lunch and dinner — lamb, leeks and green beans. Even the smallest mistake, as she breastfed her baby daughter, sent them to hospital. Desperate for a solution when no one else could help, Steph discovered the power of a supportive community of mums, and gut healing through anaerobic fermentation — and within just weeks, everything changed. 

Off the back of Steph’s life-ch...

In this episode of Untidy, Alice Soper is back behind the mic with Hannah, stepping in as co-host once more while Matilda continues to handle the jandal.

Alice and Hannah get into Alice’s journey toward motherhood in a queer partnership. From wanting to be a mum, tweaking her fiancee’s algorithm, finding sperm donors, considering whakapapa, and choosing to step outside the medical system; Alice takes us on her queer journey towards motherhood. 

Alice opens up about the big conversations with her partner, the moment she knew she wanted to carry, and how they’re hopi...

In this moving mini episode of Untidy, we revisit one of the most powerful moments from our full conversation with journalist, author, and advocate Ali Mau in the episode, ‘No Words for This with Ali Mau’.

Ali shares what compelled her to write ‘No Words for This’ — a raw and courageous memoir that dives into the personal alongside decades of work supporting survivors of sexual harm. She speaks about the emotional toll of writing, the breakthrough moment of realising that the compassion she extended to others applied to her too, and how honesty, family, and purpose became the backbo...

In this episode of Untidy, Matilda and Hannah are joined by internationally renowned exercise physiologist and nutrition scientist Dr Stacy Sims — a trailblazer on a mission to revolutionise how women train, eat, and perform.

Known for her viral TED Talk “Women Are Not Small Men”, bestselling book Roar, and over 100 peer-reviewed papers, Stacy has dedicated her career to closing the gender gap in sports science. In this conversation, she dives into the often-overlooked physiological and emotional challenges girls face during puberty — challenges that are too often misunderstood or ignored, causing many to lose confidence and drop out of sport...

In this powerful mini episode of Untidy, we revisit one of the most resonant moments from our popular conversation with Dr Libby Weaver from the episode, ‘Rescuing the ‘rushing woman’ with Dr Libby’.

Dr Libby unpacks a profound truth about modern women’s stress: we’re not just rushing because life is busy — we’re rushing because we care, and often, because we care what others think of us.

She introduces her practical “forward words” tool to help you uncover whose approval you're seeking and how that quietly drives stress and burnout. This segment is a must-listen if you...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah is joined by fellow neuro-spicy, and guest co-host, Alice Soper. Alice is a multi-award-winning sports broadcaster, co-host of the ‘Full Credit’ podcast, women’s rugby obsessive, and unfiltered advocate responding to a broad spectrum of the world’s f*ckery. With Matilda away wrangling the most feral life admin, Alice takes the mic for an unmoderated kōrero about identity, queerness, relationships, and throwing out outdated life scripts.

Together, Hannah and Alice unpack the tyranny of gender expectations, the temptation of dating a ‘broject’, and how to recover from being a ‘Band-Aid Bitch’...

In this raw, courageous, and compelling episode of Untidy, Matilda Green and Hannah Davison sit down with award-winning journalist, author, and advocate Ali Mau to talk about her new memoir, ‘No Words for This’. Known widely for her fearless leadership of the #MeTooNZ movement and a 20-year career fronting many of New Zealand’s most notable current affairs shows, Ali opens up about the personal experiences that shaped her career, her advocacy, and her voice.

Trigger warning: This episode discusses sexual harm, harassment, and gendered violence. Please listen with care. Links to resources for where to find suppor...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah (Bean) let the wheels come off completely as they settle in for an in-person sofa session, a glass of kombucha, and a potent case of end-of-day delirium. They discuss how Warkworth is ripe for a cosy crime and how Matty’s the next Miss Marple, Hannah’s ADHD diagnosis and how she feels about it, how Art’s motivational morning text gave them both the boost they needed, and, a few hot takes of what they’re watching and listening to. Get ready for a giggle — if they can be this b*tched on...

Breakups can be brutal, but is there a way to do them well? In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah chat with award-winning journalist and author Sarah Catherall to discuss both the realities and opportunities of separation, co-parenting, and moving forward to survive and thrive.

Sarah has spent over 30 years writing for publications such as New Zealand Listener, The Spinoff, The Post, Stuff, and international media including Vanity Fair and the BBC. She is the author of ‘How to Break Up Well: Surviving and Thriving After Separation’, a candid and insightful guide that combines expert advice with...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty, fresh from her first week as a working woman at The Hits, and Hannah, fresh from her periodic mullet removal, try a new self-development trend — shutting the f*** up (just not for the next 40 minutes at least). 

Both the girls get a sobering callout for their parenting techniques from their sons, Hannah talks through her confronting ADHD diagnosis process, and Matty gets left ‘on seen’ after an awkward voice note by the ex from ‘that poo story’. Hannah’s ex reminds her of a memorable night sneaking into a place they probably shou...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah chat to Elise Johns, a rural mum of three, gym owner, personal trainer, and adventure racer who, at 37 years old and 24 weeks pregnant, was diagnosed with stage three bowel cancer.

*Trigger warning: While Elise’s story has a happy and triumphant ending, baby loss is discussed, so please listen when the time is right and seek support if needed.

Elise’s story is one of heartbreak, resilience, advocacy and grit. She shares her experience of navigating the grief of losing a baby at 19 weeks. Then, with her next...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah creep around in the undergrowth with internet trolls, talk AI robots that need to calm down, and share the unbridled joy of Tom Hiddleston dancing to Rasputin (on repeat). Matty accidentally finds herself in an eye-gazing threesome, and, Hannah launches a new segment called, ‘Bean’s Best Burns’, sharing an interaction that demonstrates the dating scene still provides more pod content than it does connections. Matty’s torn between excitement and apprehension as she heads back into the workforce but is ready to embrace the perks of being the least favourite parent. ...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah chat to the extraordinary Dr. Libby Weaver (PhD), a nutritional biochemist, bestselling author, and founder of BioBlends Supplements. Dr. Libby has spent decades helping women understand the connections between nutrition, stress, and hormones, offering both a compassionate and scientific approach to wellbeing. With over 25 years of experience in clinical practice, Dr Libby is one of the most trusted voices in women’s health today. 

Dr. Libby shares her three-pillared approach of taking care of nutrition, emotions and biochemistry, to help women reclaim their health with simple, sustainable strategies. She dis...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matty are thrilled to hear from a listener sharing the results of their OnlyFans side hustle. Hannah reconsiders foot pics after a groundswell of technical support and creative direction, and Matty’s back from an intoxicating Disney cruise. 

After coming down from the excitement of hugging Belle and Mickey, Matty both endured and enjoyed Autumn’s strategic airport meltdown. Meanwhile, Hannah’s dealing with premenstrual anxiety (or perimenopause? Or planetary shifts? Who even knows anymore?) and contemplates whether to reclaim her maiden name.

The girls reveal their latest fixatio...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah chat to Frances Cook, the award-winning journalist, financial expert, and host of the chart-topping ‘Making Cents’ podcast. Frances shares her journey from being a self-proclaimed “financial hot mess” to becoming one of New Zealand’s most trusted voices in personal finance — making money and investing simple and achievable for everybody.

Frances shares her wisdom and wit on money mindsets, investing, KiwiSaver, and the financial decisions that will shift the dial no matter if you’ve got some to spare, or your living paycheck to paycheck. This episode is packed with relatable...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah takes Matty to the edge of her seat with a confession about a brief dalliance with a questionable side-hustle. There is more fowl behaviour in the neighbourhood which prompts activity on the community Facebook page for Hannah who’s triangulating the offending cock. Matty decides to release her shame around chasing the social elevation of becoming a recidivist rising star in her own online community; and, within the Untidy whānau, there’s a pressing issue raised about pubic hair presentation. The girls discuss if the bush is back!

Hannah squirms her w...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah welcome the incredible Susie Ferguson, a celebrated journalist, former war correspondent, and host of Saturday Morning on RNZ. Susie shares deeply personal stories that inspired her newly released autobiography, ‘Bloody Minded’ — a book she swore she’d never write.

Susie openly discusses her torrid battle with endometriosis which saw her being misdiagnosed, under-diagnosed, gaslit and dependent on opioids just to function in daily life. She talks about war reporting as the only woman in an infantry battalion, her painful entry to motherhood through miscarriage, post-natal trauma, grief, and challenging societal...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah have been ‘saving it for the pod’ and while Matty hunkers in the dark corner of a sauna, and Hannah withholds Lego sets to survive the recording time, they reunite for 2025 with more tear-inducing lols. 

Hannah’s fallen in love with her vintage caravan, Gloria Es-de-van, and Matty’s got a long-awaited rant about lolly scrambles. The girls talk about their ADHD suspicions and Hannah’s bringing listeners along on the journey as she begins the process of diagnosis. 

Matty’s been making big contributions to her community whil...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah reissue an enlightening conversation with Naturopathic doctor and women’s hormone specialist, Dr Lara Briden, while they take a little break over the holidays. 

Author of ‘Period Repair Manual’ and ‘Hormone Repair Manual’, Dr Briden is a women’s health activist, and passionate about helping women feel empowered when it comes to their bodies. 

In this interview, we dive deep into a discussion about the contraceptive pill. Whilst being revolutionary for women when it first came out, Dr Briden shares up-to-date knowledge on the potential implications. We also discuss t...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah reissue a deeply moving conversation from the very beginning of the podcast with Matt Brown, while they take a little break over the holidays. 

Taimalelagi Mataio Faafetai (Matt) Brown is a New Zealand born Samoan author of the bestselling book, She is Not Your Rehab. He is a survivor of family violence and childhood sexual abuse and originally started his domestic violence advocacy work by sharing his story with the men who frequented his busy barbershops as a way to foster vulnerability, healing, and connection.

Matt has be...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah reissue their epic conversation from the podcast’s launch with Aotearoa’s favourite Somatic Sexologist, Morgan Penn while they take a little break over the holidays. 

The girls ask if putting 'tab A' into 'slot B' is the only way to have sex. (Spoiler — it's not). Morgan talks about how to redefine intimacy in your relationships with your partners and ourselves. They discuss reclaiming your post-partum body, navigating post-partum sex, and how to have those conversations that feel all kinds of awkward. 

Enjoy one of Untidy’s most downlo...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah are together for one final yarn before the year is out! Hannah is back in the land of the living, kissing the ground with gratitude for her return to vibrant health! She’s managed to claw back some parenting cred with the kids, too. 

Matty is test-driving a new morning routine that sees her hitting the day with moxy and it’s not going unnoticed. The girls realise they’re both sick of ‘carrying the watermelons’ and feeling the need to dance. Matty owned the D-floor at the preschool disco, and...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah go off-script and ditch the plan for the episode to talk about what’s really on their minds — the beautiful chaos of life served with a side of emotional vulnerability and an unavoidable sprinkle of self-care.

Hannah shares she’s losing her battle with COVID, operating with mashed potato for a brain and finding no choice but to surrender to the slow lane. Matty opens up about a parenting fail that morning that left her feeling particularly low.

They talk about the art of repair after rupture and wh...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matty chat with two legends of New Zealand broadcasting, Jay-Jay Feeney and Dom Harvey. Well-known for their work together on The Edge Breakfast Show, Jay-Jay and Dom have shared an extraordinary journey that has seen them transition from romantic partners to business partners, redefining what it means to evolve a partnership.

From their new podcast studio, PodLab, Matty and Hannah turn the questions on these two seasoned interviewers to talk about how they managed mixing their personal and professional lives, deal with public scrutiny and entitlement, the evolution of their r...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah discuss Matilda’s chaotic trip to the public pool. As if swimming in the lukewarm piss of child minestrone soup wasn’t enough, Matty discovers she’s inadvertently decided to become bold and braless. 

Hannah’s absolutely not resisting her cravings to own a vintage caravan and grimly realises she’s been asking prospective dates for the bare minimum, which they’re still unable to deliver. 

The girls discuss toilet cubicle psychology, irrational fears, and why, under the right circumstances, you’re all for strangers’ hands tickling your ankles.

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah are joined by Kate Whitaker, Senior Advisor at Te Mana Whakaatu Classification Office for New Zealand and an expert in education and outreach. She has over a decade of classroom teaching and facilitation experience under her belt and is driven to enhance the lives of New Zealanders through practical resources for whānau and teachers, helping them to have open kōrero about challenging topics like harmful media and pornography.

Kate’s work focuses on empowering youth, caregivers, and educators to build critical media literacy skills and break down the...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty, Hannah and Producer Flick catch up for a chaotic chat that journeys from the poetry corner to bake sale avoidance, school notice overwhelm, grapefruit utilisation, the weirdest gifts, office party fails, and elaborate plans for their own novelty deaths. 

As the vortex towards the end of the year intensifies, the girls consider the topical issues ... like why no one talks about The Bermuda Triangle anymore ... Will their sanity extend into 2025? No one is sure, but, stick around and see what unravels next. 

Links to the poems read in this ep...

In this snippet from the episode of Untidy, 'The perimenopause handbook with Emily Rose Yates', Matty and Hannah talk to Emily about how they used to be able to have "8,000 drinks and be fine the next day." Now, half a sip leaves them hungover for six weeks. We find out what's really happening to our liver in perimenopause.

Untidy is made for you – the people right at the heart of this steaming hot mess we call parenthood! Follow the show and DM us on Instagram @untidypodcast or email hello@untidypodcast.com. Your stories and ideas to help us...

In this episode of Untidy, hosts, Matilda Green and Hannah Davison respond to the call of swathes of hot, brain-fogged, enraged, peri-menopausal women who are feeling frustrated, ignored, dismissed and sometimes a bit depressed about the difficulty they’re having getting clear information and proper support with their symptoms of peri-menopause. They unpack the complexities of perimenopause and holistic health with naturopath Emily Rose Yates. 

Emily Rose Yates is a highly respected naturopath with a Bachelor of Health Sciences in Naturopathy, alongside advanced diplomas in herbal medicine, nutrition, and homeopathy. Practising since 2007, Emily has dedicated her career to...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah share a little Halloween nostalgia, or rather, a history of underwhelm and awkwardness as they wonder how to bypass the event they’re underprepared for. A listener delights them with a video message as she teaches her daughter quick comebacks after the recent episode with Kasey Edwards on ‘Raising kids who like themselves’. 

Hannah’s offered a statement dog from a listener as she sets another honeytrap for eligible animal lovers, and, they discuss the merits of dogs with small surface area. She opens up about re-entering the dating world and...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matilda speak to Kasey Edwards, author of Raising Girls Who Like Themselves and Bringing up Boys who Like Themselves. Alongside fellow researcher, co-author and husband, Christopher Scanlon, Kasey has researched and written about how to raise children who can grow up to feel confident and secure in who they are. She shares her personal journey and offers practical advice on parenting through small, intentional “tweaks” that can foster resilience and self-acceptance in children.

They discuss key differences between raising girls and boys and how society treats them, beauty standards, body image...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah are feeling a spring in their steps ... but, since when did pollen get hallucinogenic ...? Strap in dear listeners, this episode is a ride!

Hannah’s decided to date again and is stepping out with her statement dog Honey Traps. She reviews the Standard Poodle for efficacy. Matty’s victimised in a retail store for concealer in her crow’s feet and takes us to school on how to rescue a sister during a wardrobe malfunction. 

From a style crisis in public to a style crisis at home, Motto Fa...

In this snippet from the episode of Untidy, "Why do I smell like an uncooked sausage?", Matty and Hannah talk about Matty having all of the feels as Milo prepares to start school. Hannah shares tips and insights from her own experiences and from the My Big Moments book, Ready for School — a firm favourite as Milo prepares to take on his next milestone. But, will Matty be ready?

Untidy is made for you – the people right at the heart of this steaming hot mess we call parenthood! Follow the show and DM us on Instagram @untidypodcast or e...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matty chat to one of Aotearoa New Zealand's most successful entrepreneurs, Cecilia Robinson. Cecilia shares her remarkable journey, from her beginnings in Sweden to founding AuPairLink, My Food Bag, and her latest venture, Tend—a digital-first healthcare provider. Named 2024 Innovator of the Year, Cecilia is also a mother of three and is leading the charge with her advocacy for a smartphone-free childhood. Alongside sharing her insights as an entrepreneur and leader, Cecilia talks about how she intertwines her life in business with her personal life and how her experiences as a mother of...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah are back from their holidays with the chaotic energy of a toddler given two cans of Coke and a free puppy. They start as they mean to continue by striding out on a tangent that puts cauliflower back in its place. After determining school holidays remain an absolute nonsense for the working parent, Matty discovers that 82% of listeners support her in feeling victimised by the over-ripe banana — seemingly a recidivist offender of culinary crimes nationwide. 

While Matty’s been living her best English Country Living life, Hannah’s had a deep...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matty speak to Melissa Banks, a team leader, early childhood educator, step-mum to two, and mum to 10-year-old, Lilly, who embarked on a gender identity journey at age seven. Melissa shares her touching and illuminating story of finding her way through parenting a gender-questioning child when there was no real roadmap to go by.

They discuss how their journey manifested and what steps they took to start moving forward, how they sought support from family, friends, the school, and other members of the rainbow community, how Melissa surrendered to an...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matty speak to Jo Robertson, an experienced therapist, specialising in sex and relationships, addiction, betrayal, and trauma. She was also one of the relationship experts on Married at First Sight NZ. Jo joins Untidy for the second episode of a special two-part edition where she answers anonymous audience questions on their own sex and relationship issues and dilemmas. 

(Trigger warning: These two episodes cover topics such as sex, porn, betrayal, mention of grooming and historical sexual assault. While there is no graphic detail, please listen with care for yourself and t...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty delights Hannah with an unprompted plug for My Big Moments books and Hannah explains why personalisation is so powerful for kids’ learning. They hear back from a listener with a very exciting update and unpack how to feel for where the flow is to follow your instincts.

They explore scenarios where people have crossed their boundaries and they chose politeness from social conditioning, rather than following their instincts. They explore why people prioritise others’ comfort over their own safety and how they’d like to act differently.

Hannah shares anothe...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matilda chat to Rachael Wilson, a UK-trained registered dietitian and feeding therapist specialising in family feeding, feeding disorders, disordered eating and body image. Rachael’s professional training and background also includes mindfulness and mindful eating, intuitive eating, and she is a highly-trained feeding therapist with the Ellyn Satter Institute. They discuss how to nurture a positive relationship with food and body for our children, as well as learning about healing from our own challenges. 

(Trigger warning: This episode covers topics such as disordered eating, body dysmorphia and child feeding conditions.)

In this episode of Untidy, after Hannah’s haunted by a lingering leek, Matty and Hannah kick off pondering some awkward culinary curiosities and an exploration of Matty’s food quirks. With recent kitchen renovations, Matty’s shocked to discover she’s not the dynamic person she thought once thought. 

After being confronted by her new-found stagnancy, Matty is also adjusting to the reality that her son, Milo, is growing up as he gets ready to start school. The girls talk about handling school transitions and give a hearty plug to Hannah’s ‘My Big Moment’s’ book, ‘Ready for...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matty speak to Jo Robertson, an experienced therapist, specialising in sex and relationships, addiction, betrayal, and trauma. She was also one of the relationship experts on Married at First Sight NZ. Jo joins Untidy for a special two-part edition where she answers anonymous audience questions on their own sex and relationship issues and dilemmas. 

(Trigger warning: These two episodes cover topics such as sex, porn, betrayal, mention of grooming and historical sexual assault. While there is no graphic detail, please listen with care for yourself and those around you.)

In this episode of Untidy, ‘podcast partners’ Matty and Hannah begin to merge completely by turning up in matching jumpers. Matty is the ever-vigilant neighbour sniffing out the cause of suspicious smoke activity in the far-off distance, while Hannah remains completely oblivious to an actual emergency right outside her front door. After that initial housekeeping and checking in on the set homework of the 90s poo, they get to discussing Hannah’s activities as the dark angel of the dating world, sharing the latest horrifying encounters, honest observations of fellow daters, and delivering due consequences to dating swamp monsters haunti...

In this snippet of Untidy, Matty and Hannah talk to the 'queen of common sense' parenting educator, Maggie Dent. Maggie draws from her deep knowledge of neuroscience and her rich experience as a high school teacher and mother of four boys, to share her refreshing, reassuring, and candid perspective on navigating the challenges of parenting through adolescence. The conversation touches on how to really work alongside your teen through those tumultuous adolescent years. Maggie provides invaluable advice on managing conflict and disappointment without damaging the parent-child relationship. Catch the full episode featuring Maggie Dent on Untidy podast called, Surfing...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah talk to the ‘queen of common sense’ parenting educator, Maggie Dent. Maggie is a celebrated author, podcaster, and speaker with a background in teaching, counselling, palliative care, and suicide prevention. Maggie draws from her deep knowledge of neuroscience and her rich experience as a high school teacher and mother of four boys, to share her refreshing, reassuring, and candid perspective on navigating the challenges of parenting through adolescence.

(Trigger warning: In this episode, there is some discussion of self-harm, suicide, sexual assault and exploitation, bullying and cyber-bullying. Please listen with...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah kick things off with a relatable rant fuelled by a morning of cat sick surprises and premenstrual rage. Matty has a beef with the cosmetic industry and their unreasonable routines, endless serums, and the pointless fight against the nature of ageing. 

They reminisce about how everyone pooed in the 90s and if it’s now okay to handle not-so-urgent messages while handling your urgent business. Matty confesses the troubling realities of her former grubbiness and they both decide to resolve the last bastions of chaos at home with a lit...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah talk to the multi-award-winning singer, songwriter and musician, Mel Parsons. Mel has released six studio albums and is a full-time, self-employed, touring artist with her own production company. She is also a mother and stepmother to four young children alongside her partner, Josh.

Mel discusses the tenacity it has taken to pursue her musical career, choosing to have a relationship with uncertainty rather than the safety net of a ‘Plan B’, and how she honours both her passion for a creative career and being an engaged parent.

She...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah confirm they wouldn’t succeed in pursuing a career in espionage ... However, in the successful pursuit of joyfulness, Hannah managed to track down a head cold for balance. Matty prescribes a good read for those experiencing, perhaps, too much joy in their lives (‘Between a Wolf and a Dog’ by Georgia Blain) and Hannah recommends ‘Greenlights’ by Matthew McConaughey as an audiobook listen for a long drive.

They ask two poignant questions about saunas, answer neither, but, offer convincing assumptions and everyone needs to follow Matty on Pinterest before she makes...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah are joined by Robin Marsh, a Canadian-Kiwi and part of the Untidy listener whanau! Robin sits down in person to courageously share her bumpy journey to motherhood which entailed fertility challenges, miscarriages, baby loss, pregnancies and making the tough decision to choose a termination. 

She talks about her mental health, healing and coping strategies as she navigated major losses and also striving towards the triumph of ultimately having two healthy babies. Robin hopes sharing her story might be able to help other listeners going through their own difficulties. Hers i...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty and Hannah get to sit down in person with Untidy’s behind-the-scenes cat wrangler extraordinaire, Flicka Williams. The girls catch up on how to transition your kids when moving countries without sustaining lasting facial injuries, then loop back to a topic that really lit up the listeners: solving the perfectly layered lasagne. With advice from listeners and a live call to a country mum for the last word on country cooking, they all feel inspired to embark on a ‘lasagne mini-break’ and give it a crack.

Hannah reminisces about producing a turduc...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matilda are joined by Michael (Wippa) Wipfli, the much-loved Australian radio presenter and co-host of the Fitzy, Wippa & Kate Ritchie breakfast show on Nova 96.9 Sydney. Wippa is the co-founder of 36 Months, a petition to raise the threshold for kids to legally join social media from 13 to 16 years of age in Australia. 

Statistics show we are raising ‘the anxious generation’ with young people facing a ‘mental health epidemic’ attributed to the rise in social media usage. Wippa is determined to petition the Australian government to change policy and protect children from social me...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matty have a kōrero with Stacey Morrison (Te Arawa, Ngāi Tahu). A mainstay of broadcasting in Aotearoa New Zealand for three decades, Stacey is also the co-author and author of books to help people on their journey with te reo Māori. As a champion of Māori language, culture and wisdom unique to Aotearoa, Stacey extends the invitation it offers us all to feel stronger about our connection to whenua, to this land.

Stacey did not grow up speaking te reo and had to confront trauma associated with...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matty plug into the powerhouse that is, Lisa O’Neill. After an adrenal collapse at age 26, Lisa became ‘obsessed with energy’, learning how to rebuild herself from bedbound to feeling better than she’d ever felt before. Lisa is a keynote speaker, mentor and leader, passionate about helping people to live their best lives by re-energising and redesigning their worlds. (And buckle up, listeners, because she's about to rock yours.) 

In her new book, ‘Energy: Get it. Guard it. Give it’, Lisa guides readers through understanding their physical, mental, emotional and spiritual...

In this episode of Untidy, Matty peels off her snot-encrusted bathrobe after a week of fever and slips into her hooded ‘pump cover’ instead. She and Hannah embrace the age and stage of life where conversations start with a health round-up and Hannah embarks on a body-wide WOF (if she can remember what she’s doing).

The girls answer hard-hitting listener questions and expose the culprit in lasagne crimes, as well as revealing Hannah’s dating pool is in fact, The Bog of Eternal Stench where she shares her struggles to find her sunny pontoon.

If you e...

In this episode of Untidy, Hannah and Matty surf a wave of chaotic energy right into a live redemption story that began with Hannah’s brutal ghosting. Matty recounts a firetrucking incident she’d still like an apology for. They discuss how to live in a state of uncertainty, and decide to collaborate with the listeners to solve kids’ fighting forever and ever. Amen.

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