Four Rooms Podcast: Mastering Entrepreneurship Holistically

Hosts Amber Spears and Brett Kaufman sit down with Justin Maxwell, the Four Rooms "money man," to explore how entrepreneurs can move beyond making income to building lasting, resilient wealth. Justin breaks down the common mistakes he sees, the psychological fears that affect money decisions, and the importance of clarity and systems.

They also discuss the endowment model of diversification, tax and business integration, and practical steps entrepreneurs can use to stabilize growth and align their finances with long-term goals. Learn where to find Justin and how to take action toward sustainable wealth.

Amber Spears sits down with Tony Grebmeyer, co‑founder of Ship Offers, to explore his journey from a garage startup to a multinational fulfillment company and the personal transformation that shaped his leadership. They discuss company culture, hiring and retention, learning to let go, and the role of service, trust, and family in building sustainable success.

Listeners will take away practical lessons on the power of asking for help, maintaining personal integrity, adopting a growth mindset, and balancing health, wealth, and relationships while scaling a business.

This episode explores how turning personal challenges into strengths fuels real business growth. Host Amber Spears shares how the Four Rooms community creates space for both personal transformation and professional success.

From live events to curated mastermind groups, hear how real connections and shared wisdom drive lasting impact. This conversation touches on everything from affiliate marketing strategies to overcoming personal roadblocks—all rooted in the belief that business grows when people grow.

If you believe success isn’t just about what you build but who you build it with, this episode is for you.

Brett Kaufman sits down with entrepreneur and strategist Brad Hart to break down a bold new business model: Results as a Service (RAS).

Brad shares how he's using AI not just as a tool—but as a foundation—for building smarter, more efficient companies. He unpacks what’s broken in traditional agency and SaaS structures and how AI-driven systems are reshaping how we attract leads, serve clients, and scale faster.

If you're ready to stop working harder and start working smarter, this episode gives you the clarity and strategy to rethink how business gets done. 

Amber Spears sits down with David Finberg, founder of Peaks Digital and a powerful new presence in the Four Rooms community. David opens up about the defining moments that shaped his entrepreneurial path—from a childhood driven by curiosity to building a leading digital agency.

Discover how a family legacy of academic excellence influenced his mindset, and walk away with practical, high-impact strategies for website growth, SEO, and business success.

Whether you’re scaling a business or starting from scratch, this episode is your roadmap to turning insight into action.

What if your story was already inside you—just waiting to be carved out?

In this deeply moving and eye-opening episode, host Amber Spears sits down with Jim House, known as The Book Carver, to explore his extraordinary journey from the worlds of education and ministry into soul-centered entrepreneurship. Jim has a rare gift: helping authors strip away the noise and uncover the truth of their message—shaping books that leave lasting impact.

Jim reveals his signature approach to writing, inspired by Michelangelo’s philosophy of carving away everything that isn’t the "angel". Whether you're a...

Join host Brett Kaufman in conversation with communication expert Michael Bernoff as they explore how powerful language shapes connection, leadership, and success.

Learn about Michael's journey and his unique approach to teaching communication that transcends traditional sales tactics as he shares real-world strategies for mastering influence—both in business and in life. Ready to hear how high performers use communication to lead, inspire, and drive results?

Welcome to the Four Rooms podcast, where entrepreneurship meets personal growth in the four crucial rooms of health, wealth, scale, and relationships. In this episode, host Brett Kaufman welcomes Pedro Jerez, founder of MAD Events Media, who is on a mission to make a difference in the world through impactful events.

Join us as Pedro shares his journey from a mere desire to succeed to uncovering a deeper purpose in life. You will:

-Learn how a moment of vulnerability led him to reassess his path and the powerful realization that play and fulfillment are essential...

Welcome to the Four Rooms Podcast, where hosts Amber Spears and Brett Kaufman dive into the intricate balance of entrepreneurship, health, wealth, scale, and relationships. On this episode, Kaufman is joined by Jhana Li of Spyglass Ops, who shares her unique journey into operations. Discover how her passion for pirates inspired her company name and philosophy, guiding entrepreneurs through the often murky waters of business.

Learn valuable insights drawn from Jhana's transition from being directionless in life to mastering the art of operations. She details the essential visionary-operator dynamic, likened to the gas and brake pedals of...

Welcome to the Four Rooms podcast, where Amber Spears and Brett Kaufman explore the multidimensional world of entrepreneurship, focusing on health, wealth, scale, and relationships. In this episode, we're joined by Kevin Richards, the COO of ClickFunnels, who gives us a rare look behind the curtain of one of the internet's leading marketing platforms.

From his early days working alongside visionary entrepreneurs to his pivotal role at ClickFunnels, Kevin shares his journey of transitions, challenges, and groundbreaking innovations. He discusses the importance of understanding vision in operations, the evolution of ClickFunnels, and the exciting shift towards collaborative...

Welcome to this heartfelt episode of the Four Rooms Podcast. In today's discussion, our host Amber Spears and Tony Grebmeier, author, entrepreneur and CEO of Shipoffers, share personal journeys of overcoming intense pain and grief, shedding light on the transformative power of consistent support and friendship.

Amber and Tony open up about their unique bond, which blossomed through shared struggles and immense personal growth, vulnerability, the importance of asking for help, and how these experiences have shaped their entrepreneurial paths.

Listen in as they reflect on deep personal losses, the resilience born from these challenges...

In this episode of the Four Rooms Podcast, co-host Brett Kaufman sits down with Justin Maxwell from Big Life Financials to discuss effective strategies to help entrepreneurs legally save money on taxes and retain more of their hard-earned cash.

Through his transformative journey from a physical education teacher to a financial expert, Justin shares insights on proactive tax planning, the importance of a great advisory team, and innovative financial strategies for sustainable wealth growth.

Discover actionable tips like the Augusta rule, strategic income distribution, and tax-smart investments tailored for business owners. Join us as we...

Welcome to the Four Rooms podcast, where entrepreneurship, health, wealth, and relationships are explored with insightful guests to help you propel your business journey. In this episode, host Amber Spears chats with Bryan Noel, sharing strategies for aligning business growth with customer needs and entrepreneurial goals.

Bryan, featured at the Four Rooms Mastermind Intensive, emphasizes the shift from leadership-focused to customer-first approaches. Through powerful examples, including his journey in the sports apparel industry, he showcases how understanding customer desires can revolutionize a product and set a brand apart in competitive markets. If you're into stories of adaptive...

Join host Brett Kaufman in a powerful episode of the Four Rooms podcast as he sits down with Denise Gosnell, the revolutionary author of "The Vacation Effect for Entrepreneurs." Discover Denise's journey from being an overworked entrepreneur to mastering the art of scaling businesses with less time. You will also hear about the life-altering event that led her to redefine her business approach and achieve a harmonious work-life balance.

Denise shares practical insights on creating a more effective work schedule and fostering a team culture that values productivity over hours– you will learn about her innovative "Forced Hy...

Welcome to the Four Rooms Podcast, a space where we navigate the multifaceted world of entrepreneurship by exploring its core elements: Health, Wealth, Scale, and Relationships.

In this episode, host Amber Spears and Brett Lingle, the innovative mind behind Dispute.com and Fuse Offers, discuss how he transitioned from being an affiliate marketer to a successful offer owner, sharing pivotal experiences and challenges that shaped his journey.

You will also hear about Brett’s approach to managing and optimizing business backends, and how to achieve the balance needed between the creative and analytical aspects of en...

Welcome to the Four Rooms Podcast, where we delve into the multifaceted journey of entrepreneurship by exploring health, wealth, relationships, and scaling. Brett Kaufman and Amber Spears host this exciting episode featuring the vivacious Molly Mahoney, known for her unique charm and confidence. Join us as we dive deep into her concept of the "quesadilla of awesome," a tool to discover what makes you uniquely you.

In this episode, Molly shares her incredible journey from a musical theater performer to a content creation expert, highlighting the power of authenticity and embracing your weirdness. Learn how to identify...

Join us in this insightful episode of the Four Rooms podcast as Brett Kaufman and guest expert Jhana Li dive deep into the key strategies for scaling your business effectively. Discover the power of OKRs (Objectives and Key Results) and how they can align your team towards common goals, ensuring everyone is rowing in the same direction.

Jhana, the founder of Spyglass Ops, shares her journey and expertise in operations, emphasizing the importance of having the right team dynamics. Learn how to identify the right COO for your business and the significance of complementing your leadership style...

In this engaging episode of the Four Rooms podcast, hosts Amber Spears sits down with Cody Bramlett, a successful entrepreneur from Supplement Millionaire and Wattle Bear Media. Recorded live in Atlanta, Cody shares his inspiring journey from discovering the world of internet marketing to building a thriving supplement business. His passion for teaching and helping others shines as he discusses the importance of legacy and mentorship in entrepreneurship.

Listeners will gain valuable insights into the challenges Cody faced, including managing rapid growth, dealing with fraud, and building a team to support his business. Cody offers practical advice...

In this insightful episode of the Four Rooms podcast, host Amber Spears explores the transformative journey of evolving from the Mimosa Mastermind to the Four Rooms Mastermind. Discover how this exclusive community is now dedicated to serving CEOs and founders, fostering an environment where financial success meets personal growth and meaningful connections.

Amber and Chris Van Loan discuss the dynamics of creating a diverse and inclusive space where entrepreneurs from all walks of life can thrive. Learn about the importance of kindness, reciprocity, and vulnerability in building a supportive network that values holistic success beyond just financial...

In this episode, Amber sits down with Kayvon and Marcus from The Sales Connection to explore the art of high-ticket sales and creating meaningful connections with your clients.

Discover the secrets behind building a thriving sales department, the importance of intrinsic motivation in achieving success, and how a purpose-driven approach can outpace one focused solely on financial gain.

Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge on scaling your business and building lasting relationships. Don't miss out on the opportunity to learn from industry leaders and transform your...

Welcome to the Four Rooms Podcast! In this captivating episode, join Amber Spears as she dives into the dynamic world of entrepreneurship and parenthood with Eddie Maalouf, Founder of BAD Marketing.

Discover the secrets behind his company's rapid growth and the unique blend of youthful creativity and seasoned wisdom that fuels their success. Eddie shares personal insights into his transformative journey.

This episode is a treasure trove of wisdom on harnessing the power of identity and the law of attraction for entrepreneurial success. You'll also hear about the impact that fatherhood has on entrepreneurship, and...

In this engaging episode of the Four Rooms Podcast, Amber Spears sits down with Manny Ju from Maropost to discuss the evolving landscape of email marketing. 

Manny discusses the importance of staying legitimate in the eyes of email providers and the steps marketers can take to ensure their emails reach their intended audience.

The discussion also explores the impact of AI in retail and email personalization to drive new business. 

Whether you're an email marketing veteran or new to the field, this episode is packed with valuable knowledge and practical advice to help yo...