The Necessary Conversation

The Necessary Conversation

By: The Necessary Conversation

Language: en-us

Categories: News, Politics, Government, Education, Self Improvement

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Episodes

Family Therapist
Jan 09, 2026

In today's episode we are joined by a very special guest. A family therapist. But not just any family therapist. She's better known for her TikToks exposing emails the Trump team sends to people to raise money.

Her social media can be found here:

https://www.instagram.com/happymomandgrandma1/

https://www.tiktok.com/@kclmfft


Karen is a licensed marriage and family therapist, here today in in an educational and conversational role, not as anyone’s therapist. She won’t be providing therapy, diagnoses, or individualized mental health advice, as s...

Duration: 01:05:59
Oil Wars
Jan 04, 2026

This week on The Necessary Conversation the Kultgen family dives into some of the worst things to happen during Trump's second term so far.


🛢️ Oil Wars: The Invasion of Venezuela

Maduro has long been a key figure in narco-terrorism and drug smuggling. Is his capture a good thing?Trump has threatened to do the same thing in Mexico and Cuba. Is this smash and grab strategy a good idea?This was an illegal military action done without the knowledge of congress. Do you have any faith that the military will obey inter...

Duration: 01:06:48
Nick Shirley Exposed
Jan 01, 2026

In this special Friday episode Chad plays Mary Lou a youtube video by Keith Edwards that outlines exactly why Nick Shirley's video about Somali fraud in Minnesota is wrong.

Keith Edwards video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB9yGM2LrDM

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 00:31:50
Somali Fraud In Minnesota
Dec 31, 2025

In this Wednesday Busting The Maga Bubble episode, Chad and Bob play each other clips from both sides of the Somali Fraud issue gaining traction in right wing news.

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 00:39:44
Trump's Christmas Meltdown
Dec 28, 2025

On this week’s episode of The Necessary Conversation, we break down one of the most chaotic and disturbing weeks yet in Trump’s second term — from a Christmas Day posting spree that looked more like a meltdown than a holiday message, to explosive new revelations in the Epstein files, to an apparent attempt to bury a damning 60 Minutes investigation. Bob has once again fled the show, refusing to face off against his children as more evidence mounts against Trump by the day.

🎄 Trump’s Christmas Meltdown
On Christmas Day, Trump posted nearly 1...

Duration: 01:01:15
Trump In The Epstein Files
Dec 24, 2025

In this mid-week episode Haley and Chad show Mary Lou some clips regarding Trump's inclusion in the most recent batch of Epstein Files released by the DOJ. Merry Christmas! Happy Holidays!

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 00:46:47
The Epstein Files Cover-Up
Dec 21, 2025

Haley is back this week on The Necessary Conversation as we break down one of the most disturbing developments yet in the Epstein saga—along with explosive new reporting about Donald Trump from Vanity Fair, another incoherent Trump speech, foreign military strikes, marijuana rescheduling, and more.

🔥 EPSTEIN FILES COVER-UP

The Department of Justice was legally required to release all Epstein files—but instead released less than 2% of them, many completely blacked out. Even worse, files have already been deleted from the public site, including one reportedly containing photos of Trump inside Epstein’s house. Duration: 01:02:42

Rob Reiner
Dec 17, 2025

In this midweek episode Chad and Mary Lou discuss Donald Trump's reaction to Rob Reiner's apparent murder.

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 00:40:51
New Epstein Photos
Dec 14, 2025

🚨 IMPORTANT NOTE: Haley is not on the show this week due to a medical emergency, but she is okay and recovering ❤️

This week on The Necessary Conversation, we break down another chaotic and disturbing week in American politics — from a mass shooting at Brown University to Trump tweeting false information, a Venezuelan oil tanker seized by U.S. forces, new Epstein photos released, and Kristi Noem caught lying to Congress.

🔫 Mass Shooting at Brown University

A mass shoot...

Duration: 01:02:16
Affordability
Dec 11, 2025

Mary Lou joins Chad for a midweek discussion about Trump's lies surrounding the idea and use of the word "Affordability." They play clips for one another from both sides of the political spectrum and even get into the breaking news about Pete Hegseth's war crimes.

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 00:43:37
The First In Person Episode
Dec 07, 2025

This week’s episode of The Necessary Conversation is a historic first: all four family members — Bob, Mary Lou, Haley, and Chad — are together in the same room at Bob & Mary Lou’s house.

We break down the most disturbing and chaotic week yet in Trump’s second term — including alleged war crimes, another Dozy Don moment, child-sex criminals being pardoned, over 1.17 million layoffs, and corruption spreading through the DOJ, FBI, military, and beyond.

TOPICS THIS WEEK

⚠️ WAR CRIMES — The Doubl...

Duration: 00:48:44
Lib Sibs Again
Dec 04, 2025

Haley and Chad hold down another Wednesday episode discussing their upcoming trip to Oklahoma to see their parents, as well as movies and TV shows from their childhoods.

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 01:07:36
Is Trump Pardoning A Notorious Druglord?
Nov 30, 2025

This week Bob is absent in protest of Chad's joke made on last week's live. Nonetheless, Haley, Chad and Mary Lou cover the top stories of the week and Mary Lou's mind might be changing.

We discuss:

🔫 NATIONAL GUARD MEMBERS AMBUSHED NEAR THE WHITE HOUSE

Two West Virginia National Guard members, Sarah Beckstrom (killed) and Andrew Wolfe (critical condition), were ambushed right outside the White House.
The suspect? Rahmanullah Lakanwal, an Afghan evacuee vetted and granted asylum by the Trump administration.
Now Trump has...

Duration: 01:04:41
Following Orders
Nov 26, 2025

Chad and Mary Lou share clips about Mark Kelly and the other lawmakers who reminded U.S. Military members not to follow illegal orders.

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 00:43:23
Trump Loves Mamdani
Nov 23, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation we break down everything: Trump suddenly loving Zohran Mamdani, MTG quitting Congress in a meltdown, Democrats warning the military about unlawful orders, Trump calling for their execution, his spiritual advisor pleading guilty to child sex crimes and much much more.


🏛️ Trump Suddenly Loves Zohran Mamdani

After calling Mamdani:

“A communist lunatic”“A Jew-hater”“Stupid”“Terrible-looking”

Trump met with him… and completely flipped.

Now Trump says:

“I’ll stick up for you.”“I’m cheering for him.”“I’d be happy living in NYC under him.”

What...

Duration: 01:06:22
Quiet Piggy
Nov 20, 2025

In this mid-week episode the whole Kultgen family weighs in on clips of Trump attacking female reporters and some bonus clips of Chad's appearance on Bob The Drag Queen's podcast last week.

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 00:50:40
The Emails
Nov 16, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, Haley is back from vacation, Bob chickened out, and things get heated fast as we dive into the most explosive week of Trump’s second term yet — from the release of the Epstein emails to Ghislaine Maxwell’s special treatment to Democrats folding under Republican pressure.

📧 The Epstein Emails

Over 20,000 subpoenaed Epstein estate documents were released by House Democrats this week — and they raise serious questions about Trump’s connection to Jeffrey Epstein.
Emails show Epstein discussing...

Duration: 01:11:51
Is Ice Trump's Gestapo
Nov 13, 2025

Chad and Mary Lou reconvene for a midweek episode in which they show each other clips of ICE assaults on U.S. citizens.

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 00:40:00
The Blue Wave
Nov 09, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, Haley abandons her family as the electorate sent Donald Trump a message louder than any poll: America is tired of MAGA. In one of the biggest Democratic sweeps in modern history, voters across the nation delivered a crushing rebuke to Trump’s authoritarian movement.

And while Haley is away on vacation this week, the rest of us break down everything happening in this wild political moment — from Trump falling asleep on camera again to Steve Bannon openly admitting Republicans need to seize the government to avoid prison.

Duration: 01:03:18
Trump's 60 Minutes Appearance
Nov 05, 2025

In this episode of Busting the Maga Bubble, Chad and Mary Lou react to some clips from Trump's appearance on 60 Minutes this Sunday. Mary Lou also supplies a clip from Candace Owens discussing Charlie Kirk's murder. 

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 00:43:50
Starving America
Nov 02, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, we're in full Halloween costumes but the news coming out of America is scarier than anything we could wear.

From starving families to ICE violence to wild JD Vance & Erika Kirk rumors, this is truly one of the most insane weeks yet under Trump’s second term.

🍽 42 Million Americans Lose Food Aid

The GOP-led shutdown has cut off SNAP benefits, leaving 1 in 8 Americans — including millions of children — without money for food.
Repu...

Duration: 01:04:57
Trump's Third Term
Oct 29, 2025

In this episode of Busting the Maga Bubble, Mary Lou provides video evidence to support her claim that Trump will not attempt a 3rd term. Chad counters her argument with his own clips from Trump himself as well as Steve Bannon literally saying they have a plan in place for Trump to win in 2028.

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 00:36:04
White House Down
Oct 26, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, we start by asking the question: What is MAGA?
 

From there, the conversation spirals through one of the wildest weeks yet — as Trump literally tears down part of the White House, pardons criminals tied to terrorism and child exploitation, and demands hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars for himself.

🏛 Goodbye, White House

Trump has demolished the East Wing to build a 90,000-square-foot, $300 million private ballroom, funded by Big Tech donors like Apple, Google...

Duration: 01:04:10
No Kings
Oct 19, 2025

Bob is back! After missing last week’s episode, he returns just in time for one of the most chaotic weeks in Trump’s America — and things get heated fast.

😇 “I Won’t Get Into Heaven” — Trump Says It Out Loud

We open this week with Trump claiming he “might not get into heaven.”
 💬 Was it a joke — or the truth slipping out?
 💬 Do you think Trump is going to heaven?

No Kings Protest — 7 Million Americans Take to the Streets

The largest protest in U.S. history — over 7 million...

Duration: 01:02:10
Chicago Under Siege
Oct 12, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, it’s just Chad, Haley and Mary Lou. Bob's resting. But we break down another wild week in America under Trump’s second term.

🏛 Shutdown Day 12

The U.S. government shutdown hits day 12 with nearly 1.6 million federal workers either furloughed or working without pay. Trump is using the shutdown to push through Project 2025, firing thousands of government employees and dismantling departments like the CDC, Department of Education, and Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency.
💬 Should government...

Duration: 01:08:38
Shutdown
Oct 05, 2025

This week’s episode of The Necessary Conversation gets heated after a brutal argument about Trump’s government shutdown and ICE’s military-style raids.

🏛 Shutdown Showdown

It’s Day 5 of the government shutdown and Trump is blaming Democrats — even hijacking federal worker emails to say so. We break down who’s really at fault, what Project 2025 has to do with it, and how Russ Vought’s meeting with Trump could reshape America’s social safety net.
💬 Should every American have access to healthcare?
💬 Are Republicans using the shutdown to consolidate power?

🎖...

Duration: 01:05:28
Comey Indicted
Sep 28, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation we dive into one of the wildest news cycles yet:

⚖️ Comey Indictment

For the first time in U.S. history, a former FBI director has been indicted. James Comey faces two counts tied to his 2020 Senate testimony. Trump is celebrating the charges, calling Comey “a dirty cop” and “one of the worst human beings this country has ever been exposed to.” We break down what’s actually in the two-page indictment, whether it will hold up in court, and who Trump might be coming for next.

🎖️ Hegseth’s Military Meeting Duration: 01:12:13

Freedom From Speech
Sep 21, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad and Haley dive into a whirlwind of political chaos, corruption, and controversy with Mary Lou while Bob sleeps through most of the episode.

Topics discussed:

Jimmy Kimmel Suspended: After Trump threatened ABC and FCC Chair Brendan Carr piled on, Kimmel was yanked off the air indefinitely. We break down the timeline, the First Amendment questions, and why Fox News hosts like Brian Kilmeade still get airtime even after calling for violence.Tom Homan’s $50K Bribe: Trump’s “border czar” was caught on hidden camera acceptin...

Duration: 01:05:49
Maga Martyr
Sep 14, 2025

This week’s episode of The Necessary Conversation dives into one of the most chaotic weeks in American politics yet.

👉 Topics We Cover:

Charlie Kirk Assassinated

Charlie Kirk was shot and killed while speaking at Utah Valley University. We break down what happened, the shooter’s identity, Trump’s reaction, and how white supremacist groups are already trying to weaponize his death. We also compare it to other recent political assassinations, like the killing of Rep. Melissa Hortman, and debate whether video games, the internet, or guns themselves are to blame...

Duration: 01:00:38
Lib Sibs
Sep 07, 2025

This week’s episode of The Necessary Conversation is a little different. With our parents absent — after the loss of their beloved dog, Kitty Kat Sugar Bear, and Dad recovering from a fall — it’s just Chad and Haley behind the mics.

We take this moment to reflect on what 3 years of doing this show has meant for us, our family, and our listeners. From fiery debates to unexpected breakthroughs, the journey has been as messy as it has been meaningful.

💬 Topics We Cover:

The Show

How 3 years of weekly a...

Duration: 01:10:03
Thoughts and Prayers
Aug 31, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation we cover one of the heaviest news weeks yet.

👉 Here’s what we dive into:

🏫 School Shooting in Minneapolis

A tragic shooting at Annunciation Catholic School left 2 children dead and 17 others injured. We discuss the shooter’s identity, manifesto, and why gun violence has now become the #1 cause of death for kids in America.

⛳️ Trump Rumors & Golfing Again

Trump vanished from public view for 4 days, sparking #trumpdead trends online. JD Vance even said he was “ready to step in”...

Duration: 01:01:50
Will Trump Go To Heaven?
Aug 24, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation:

🗳 Texas vs. California

Texas Republicans delayed flood relief to ram through a redistricting bill flipping up to 5 House seats. Gavin Newsom fired back with the Election Rigging Response Act. Is this tit-for-tat how democracy is supposed to work?

📺 Newsmax Lied

After years of pushing election conspiracies, Newsmax will pay Dominion $67 million in a defamation settlement. First Fox, now this. Is conservative media finally paying for the Big Lie?

📬 No More Mail-In Ballots

Trump vowed to...

Duration: 01:05:46
Red Carpet Treatment
Aug 17, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, the Kultgen family breaks down a wild stretch of politics at home and abroad—while celebrating three years of arguing, laughing, and surviving together.

🇷🇺 Trump & Putin: Red Carpet in Alaska

Donald Trump rolled out literal red carpet treatment for Vladimir Putin at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Anchorage. The pageantry included flyovers, limo rides, and fawning photo ops—but no ceasefire deal for Ukraine. We discuss the ICC arrest warrant for Putin, the abduction of nearly 19,000 Ukrainian children, and whether Trump’s “end the war in 24 hours” promise is officially broken.

🪖...

Duration: 01:07:20
Fool's Gold
Aug 10, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, Chad and Haley face off with Mary Lou (Bob’s still out recovering from hip surgery!) in another fiery family debate that mixes breaking headlines with our signature cross-generational, cross-political banter.

Topics include:

Trump–Putin Alaska Summit: Why Zelenskyy’s not invited, the $300B deal on the table, and what happens if Ukraine refuses to sign.Texas Democrats Skip Town: The mass walkout to block GOP redistricting, Abbott’s legal threats, and whether blue states will retaliate.Trump Burger Owner Deported: Roland Mehrez B...

Duration: 01:06:47
Is Trump Really Going To Pardon Ghislaine Maxwell?
Aug 03, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, it’s just Mary Lou and Chad behind the mic—no Bob, no Haley—as we mark (almost!) three years of raw, honest political dialogue. We reflect on the very first episode of the show from August 17, 2022 and ask: has this podcast changed us? Has it brought us closer—or just made things even weirder?

📼 Then we dive into the biggest headlines of the week:

Trump’s Name Redacted from the Epstein Files?
Bloomberg reports the FBI removed Trump’s name from p...

Duration: 01:14:12
Epstein's Ghost
Jul 27, 2025

Bob is out of commission after a successful hip replacement surgery this week as Mary Lou, Chad and Haley discuss this week in American politics.

🔥 First up — Trump is freaking out over reports that his name appears multiple times in the Epstein files. After The Wall Street Journal broke the story, he allegedly told aides, “They’re going to f--- me,” fled to Scotland, and is now considering a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell. Even Epstein’s brother came forward to say Trump and Epstein were “very close friends.” Is Trump’s biggest scandal finally catching up with him?

🚓 ICE de...

Duration: 01:07:07
Stupid Weaklings
Jul 20, 2025

📌 Bob is back this week to finally discuss the Epstein list among other things.

👀 Trump vs. the Epstein List
Trump calls his own supporters “stupid” and “weaklings” for continuing to believe in the Epstein client list—a conspiracy he pushed for years. MAGA influencers are burning hats and turning on him. Then The Wall Street Journal drops a 2003 birthday letter from Trump to Epstein, allegedly including a naked woman doodle and lines like:

“A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday — and may every day be another wonderful secret.”
 Trump sues the WSJ for $10 billion—an...

Duration: 01:06:26
The Client List That Wasn't There
Jul 13, 2025

📣 Bob is out this week prepping for hip surgery—but don’t worry, we’ve got backup.
Joining us in his place is Rep. Gil Cisneros, Congressman from California’s 31st district, to help us unpack one of the most explosive weeks in politics yet.

🧨 Epstein List Doesn’t Exist?!
After years of MAGA conspiracy theories, the FBI and DOJ announced this week that no Epstein client list exists. Trump loyalists are revolting. Bongino might resign. Pam Bondi flip-flopped. Kash Patel is backtracking. Steve Bannon says Trump could lose 10% of his base. We break d...

Duration: 01:05:41
See Ya Later Legislators
Jul 06, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, the Kultgen Family dives into the most chaotic week in American politics yet—featuring billion-dollar bills, flooded detention centers, and a potential UFC cage fight… on the White House lawn.

🔺 Big Beautiful Bill (BBB)
Trump celebrates July 4th by signing the most aggressive bill of his presidency—permanently extending tax cuts for the rich, slashing Medicaid & SNAP, defunding Planned Parenthood, and making ICE the highest-budgeted federal agency.
Who wins? The rich.
Who loses? 12 million Americans who could lose healthcare.

🐊 Alligator Alcatraz
A new migran...

Duration: 01:07:56
Checks Imbalanced
Jun 29, 2025

In this week’s fiery episode of The Necessary Conversation, the Kultgen family tackles some of the biggest political stories shaping America—and the world.

👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 Join Chad, Haley, and their MAGA parents, Mary Lou and Bob, as they debate:

🧨 Supreme Court Power Grab
The Court ruled that lower courts can no longer block executive orders nationwide. Is this the end of checks and balances—or the start of a dictatorship?

🇮🇷 Iran Nuclear Strike: Success or Spin?
Trump claims the U.S. bombing "obliterated" Iran’s nuclear capabilities. But leaked intel says otherwise. Wh...

Duration: 01:08:44
War Is Peace
Jun 22, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, the Kultgen Family is back—and the stakes couldn’t be higher. Trump promised to be the “anti-war president,” but now the U.S. is bombing Iran, and even MAGA is starting to fracture. Is this the start of World War III?

We dive deep into:
 🇮🇷 Trump’s stunning military escalation against Iran using B-2 bombers and “bunker busters”
 🪖 Pete Hegseth’s shocking refusal to rule out U.S. troops firing on civilians
 🔥 ICE raids in Los Angeles schools and Trump threatening to cut wildfire aid to California
 📅 Trump’s Juneteenth post...

Duration: 01:02:20
Cringe King
Jun 15, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, things get heated as the Kultgen family dives into one of the most volatile weeks in American politics.

🔴 A Minnesota lawmaker is assassinated in her home, and a hit list tied to the “No Kings” movement is discovered.
 🔴 Trump sends thousands of National Guard troops and Marines into Los Angeles amid ICE raids, sparking nationwide protests and a legal battle over the limits of presidential power.
 🔴 Senator Alex Padilla is handcuffed by federal agents after trying to ask Kristi Noem a question.
 🔴 Trump celebrates his birthday with a $55 million military pa...

Duration: 01:02:48
Keta Mean Girls
Jun 08, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, the Kultgen family unpacks one of the most explosive political episodes of the year.

We cover the Musk vs. Trump meltdown, which began with a scathing Elon tweet about Trump’s “Big Beautiful Bill” and escalated to accusations of Epstein ties, threats to decommission space tech, and the possible creation of a third political party. Is this the end of MAGA tech bromance?

Then we head to Los Angeles, where ICE raids sparked mass protests, Molotovs, and a federal crackdown that’s raised serious questions about ci...

Duration: 01:02:51
Taco Hell
Jun 01, 2025

Happy Pride, Happy Graduation, and Happy 50th Anniversary to Mary Lou and Bob!

This week we cover:

🌮 The Taco Tariff Trades
Trump's tariff flip-flops hit the spotlight when CNBC's Megan Cassella asked him about “Taco Trade” – short for “Trump Always Chickens Out.” His furious response? “That’s the nastiest question.” We break down the impact on markets and global credibility.

👁️ Elon’s Black Eye
Why did Elon Musk show up bruised before resigning from DOGE? Drug rumors, a rumored brawl with the Treasury Secretary, and a $2 trillion promise that fell $1.84 tr...

Duration: 01:10:28
Big Beautiful Bill
May 25, 2025

In this week’s fiery episode of The Necessary Conversation, our politically divided family tackles Trump’s latest tax bill, Biden’s shocking cancer diagnosis, and whether it’s fair for crypto billionaires to buy special access to the president.

🧾 Topics Include:
💸 Trump’s “One Big Beautiful Bill” — giant tax breaks for the wealthy, Medicaid cuts for millions, and a sneaky court loophole hidden on page 563.
💀 Biden’s cancer diagnosis — real tragedy or strategic timing?
🌍 Trump vs. South Africa — the president picks another international fight based on fake videos.
💰 "Follow the Money" — how Trump is doubling his ne...

Duration: 01:02:48
The Big Beautiful Plane
May 18, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, Haley abandons her family leaving Chad to deal with Bob and Mary Lou alone as they tackle another wild week in politics.

For the first time ever Chad agrees with Trump on something he said this week. What was it? You’ll have to tune in to hear.

TOPICS:

✈️ Big Beautiful Jet
Trump accepts a $400M private plane from Qatar’s royal family to use as a temporary Air Force One. Is it a violation of the Constitution? What does Qatar wan...

Duration: 00:59:10
Happy Mother's Day!
May 11, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, the Kultgen family unpacks another chaotic week in American politics.

Topics include:

The Catholic Church makes history with the first American pope – but is Pope Leo XIV too woke for the GOP?FBI Director Kash Patel can’t make it to his own meetings — or to a deadline. Is this how law enforcement should run?RFK Jr. cuts off healthcare for 9/11 first responders. Is this the party that “backs the blue”?Trump gets $2B through a crypto deal — and just so happens to ease chip export rules for the UAE. Coi...

Duration: 01:07:54
The Second First 100 Days
May 05, 2025

The Kultgens dig into Donald Trump's first 100 days back in office—and it’s been a wild ride. From a record-shattering 143 executive orders to the creation of a $500,000 pay-to-play club in D.C., we break down what’s happening behind the headlines.

🎙️ Topics include:

Why the stock market is tankingTrump’s broken promises on Ukraine and GazaImmigration crackdowns and ICE raids on U.S. citizensThe AI “Pope Trump” image (yes, really)The secretive Executive Branch club for rich elitesTrump's attempt to punish a law firm—blocked by a federal judgeAmazon backing down on tariff transparency after a Trump callAnd… Tr...

Duration: 01:09:01
Trump Arrests A Judge
Apr 27, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, the Kultgen family dives into some of the most shocking headlines yet from Trump's second term. We cover Trump's unprecedented attack on the judiciary after the arrest of Judge Hannah Dugan, Pete Hegseth’s second Signal security scandal, Elon Musk’s messy exit from DOGE as Tesla crumbles, and Trump's new war on higher education. Plus, we break down the humanitarian disaster unfolding in El Salvador after mass deportations — and why Trump refused federal aid to tornado-ravaged Arkansas, even turning his back on longtime ally Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Topics include:

Trump...

Duration: 01:02:33
Trump Arrests A Judge
Apr 27, 2025

This week on The Necessary Conversation, the Kultgen family dives into some of the most shocking headlines yet from Trump's second term. We cover Trump's unprecedented attack on the judiciary after the arrest of Judge Hannah Dugan, Pete Hegseth’s second Signal security scandal, Elon Musk’s messy exit from DOGE as Tesla crumbles, and Trump's new war on higher education. Plus, we break down the humanitarian disaster unfolding in El Salvador after mass deportations — and why Trump refused federal aid to tornado-ravaged Arkansas, even turning his back on longtime ally Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Topics include:

Trump...

Duration: 01:02:33
Supreme Court Vs. Trump
Apr 20, 2025

In this episode of The Necessary Conversation, Chad and his sister Haley (the liberals) face off against their conservative parents, Mary Lou and Bob, for another brutally honest family debate about the week's biggest political chaos.

We cover:

Trump’s refusal to comply with the Supreme Court over Kilmar Abrego Garcia’s illegal deportation—plus the staged margarita photo in a Salvadorian mega-prison.The Supreme Court halting Trump’s use of the Alien Enemies Act—even his own justices ruled against him.Trump's failed promise to end the Ukraine war in 24 hours, and the 20,000 Ukrainian children abducted b...

Duration: 01:04:27
Tariff Chaos
Apr 14, 2025

In this week’s episode, we break down the chaos surrounding Trump’s escalating tariff war with China, the resulting stock market crash, and the insider trading accusations stemming from his Truth Social post. We dive into the DOJ investigation of former officials Miles Taylor and Chris Krebs, the mounting legal drama over Kilmar Abrigo Garcia’s deportation, and Trump’s $92 million birthday military parade plan. Plus, we unpack the administration’s attacks on climate science and university funding, including threats to Harvard and cuts to Princeton and Cornell. Is Trump manipulating markets? Is this the rise of authoritarianism?

If yo...

Duration: 01:05:09
Trade Wars
Apr 06, 2025

In this episode the Kultgens discuss:

1. Trump's New Tariffs

2. Wrongful Deportations

3. Trump Disrespecting The Military Again

4. Wisconsin Supreme Court

5. Trump's 3rd Term

6. Nationwide Hands Off Protests

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 01:08:39
Signalgate
Mar 30, 2025

The Kultgens discuss:

1. Signalgate

2. Tufts Student Abduction

3. NY vs. Texas on Abortion

4. Trump's Burgeoning SS

5. Child Labor in Florida

And much, much more.

If you have a question for anyone on the show, record it in a 1 minute or under audio or video clip and send it to:
thenecessaryconversationpod@gmail.com

Duration: 01:07:00
Deportation Nightmare
Mar 23, 2025

The Kultgens Discuss:

1. Trump's Illegal Deportations

2. Israel Breaking The Ceasefire

3. Trump Defying The Courts

4. Social Security Problems

5. Musk Getting More Government Access

6. Trump Outlawing Abortion In Idaho

7. Trump Trying To Overturn Biden's Pardons

And much, much more!

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Duration: 01:02:37
Buy A Tesler
Mar 17, 2025

In this episode the Kultgens discuss:

1. The Tesler Commercial At the Whitehouse

2. The Government Spending Bill

3. Canda, The 51st State
4. Trump Deports a Kid With Cancer

5. Trump's Legal Defeats and Victories

6. The Measles Outbreak

7. Trump Whacked With A Microphone
And much, much more!

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Duration: 01:06:21
War On Canada
Mar 09, 2025

In this episode the Kultgens discuss:

1. Reactions To Our First Viral Video

2. Trump's Address to Congress

3. Ukraine Losing American Aid

4. Tariffs 

5. Musk Loses 120 Billion Dollars In A Week

6. Trump Wants To Gut The VA

7. Trump Loses At The Supreme Court

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Duration: 01:05:49
Trump Vs. Zelensky
Mar 02, 2025

In this episode the Kultgens discuss:

1. The Disastrous White House Meeting Between Trump and Zelensky
2. The Republican Spending Bill

3. Musk Running The First Cabinet Meeting
4. Bongino At The FBI
5. Trump's Bruise

And much, much more!

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Duration: 01:07:07
King Trump
Feb 23, 2025

The Kultgens discuss:

1. Trump Declares Himself King

2. Trump Bans The Associated Press

3. Trump Fires The Heads of US Military

4. Trump Says Ukraine Started The War

5. President Elon Musk Is A Bad Father

And Mary Lou's 70th Birthday!

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Duration: 01:08:54
President Musk
Feb 16, 2025

The Kultgens discuss:

1. Musk In The Oval Office

2. Musk Fires Everyone

3. Prices Increasing

4. Did Bob and Mary Lou Do a Good Job As Parents

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Duration: 01:05:46
The Apolitical Episode
Feb 09, 2025

The Kultgens try their best to avoid politics for an entire episode.

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Duration: 00:59:33
Trump's War On DEI
Feb 02, 2025

In this episode the Kultgens discuss:

1. Plane Crashes

2. The FBI Purge
3. Trump's Tarrifs

4. Trump's War on DEI

5. Elon Musk Controlling The Federal Payment System


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Duration: 01:05:59
Haley Goes Viral Again!
Jan 26, 2025

This week the Kultgen family discusses:
1. Haley's Viral Bishop Budde Cookies
2. Trump's Pardon Of Violent Criminals
3. What Happens When You Die?
4. Trump Vs. the 14th Amendment
5. Trump's Deportation Plan
6. Pete Hegseth Running The U.S. Military

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Duration: 01:11:13
Authoritarian America
Jan 19, 2025

The Kultgens discuss:
1. Trump's Inauguration
2. TikTok
3. Mike Johnson's Conditional Disaster Aid
Kitty's Name Origin
4. Hegseth's Confirmation Hearing
5. Oklahoma's Divorce Laws
6. Trump's Hollywood Ambassadors

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Duration: 01:03:33
LA On Fire
Jan 12, 2025

The Kultgens discuss:
1. The Fires In LA
2. Trump's Sentencing 
3. Trump Vs. Greenland
4. Zuck Gets Rid of Fact Checking
5. TikTok Bye Bye?

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Duration: 01:00:09
Maga Civil War
Dec 30, 2024

The Kultgens discuss:
1. The Maga Civil War
2. This Is Trump's America
Jimmy Carter
3. Trump Delays TikTok Ban
4. Matt Gaetz

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Duration: 00:47:46
Merry Christmas
Dec 23, 2024

After being told that we weren't doing a show today, Chad prepared nothing. Enjoy.

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Duration: 00:54:11
Luigi Mangione - American Hero or Common Criminal
Dec 15, 2024

The Kultgens Discuss
1.Luigi Mangione
2. Drones Over New Jersey
3. Public Schools Closing
4. Trump Walks Back Lower Grocery Price Promise

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Duration: 01:00:39
The CEO Killer
Dec 08, 2024

The Kultgens discuss:
1. Biden's Pardon
2. The CEO Killer
3. Hegseth's Relationship with Alcohol
4. The Military Woke List

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Duration: 01:00:10
50 Days Until The Death Of Democracy
Dec 01, 2024

The Kultgens discuss:
1. Kash Patel
2. Trump Vs. Mexico
3. Blaire Flemming
4. Trump Vs. Canada

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Duration: 01:02:03
Trump's Cabinet From Hell
Nov 24, 2024

In this episode the Kultgens discuss Trump's cabinet picks.

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Duration: 01:16:27
Trump Wins
Nov 10, 2024

The Kultgens discuss the implications of Trump's landslide victory in the most recent U.S. Presidential election.

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Duration: 01:12:17
Election Night Special
Nov 06, 2024

How are the Kultgens feeling on election night 2024?

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Duration: 00:24:28
Election Predictions
Nov 03, 2024

The Kultgens discuss:
1. Women Dying In Texas
2. Trump's MSG Rally
3. Who Will Win The Election
4. Will There Be Violence?

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Duration: 01:04:52
The Enemy Within
Oct 20, 2024

The Kultgens discuss:
1. Record Breaking Early Voting In Georgia
2. The Enemy Within
3. Trump Dances for 30 Minutes at a Rally
4. Trump Backs Out of Interviews

With special guest Roman Popp!

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Duration: 01:01:44
Are The Democrats Controlling The Weather?
Oct 13, 2024

The Kultgens discuss:
1. MTG's Suggestion that the Dems are creating hurricanes for political gain
2. Iran's plans to assassinate Trump
3. The thwarted election day terrorist attack in Oklahoma
4. Kamala's edited 60 Minutes interview

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Duration: 00:59:04
Haley Goes Viral
Oct 06, 2024

The Kultgens Discuss:
1. Haley's Viral Harris/Walz Cookies
2. The VP Debate
3. Melania Trump Pro Choice
4. Elon Musk at Trump's Rally

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Duration: 01:00:57
Our First Guest
Sep 29, 2024

Jamie Miller is the former Executive Director of Republican Party Of Florida and he currently operates the Reasonable Arguments blog which is described as, “Reasonable conservative commentary about Florida and national politics.”

Jamie's Blog:
https://reasonablearguments.com/

The Kultgen and Miller discuss:
1. Hurricane Helene
2. Trump Handing Out Money To Voters
3. Stock Market Hitting An All Time High Under Biden
4. The Upcoming VP Debate

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...

Duration: 00:59:17
Mark Robinson The "Black Nazi"
Sep 22, 2024

The Kultgens discuss:
1. Women Dying Because Of Abortion Bans
2. Trump Pulling Out Of the 2nd Debate with Harris
P Diddy
3. Mark Robinson
4. Hand counting votes in Georgia

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Duration: 00:51:30
Taylor Swift Endorses Kamala Harris
Sep 15, 2024

The Kultgens Discuss:
1. Post debate fact checking
2. Taylor Swift endorses Harris
(Favorite pets)
3. Laura Loomer
4. The Pope doesn't like either candidate

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Duration: 00:58:10
The Debate - Trump Vs. Harris
Sep 11, 2024

The Kultgens go point by point for a full analysis of tonight's historic debate.

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Duration: 01:04:49
Kamala's First Interview
Sep 02, 2024

The Kultgens discuss:
1. Kamala's First Interview
2. Trump at Arlington Cemetery
(Goatman)
3. Trump NFTs
4. Tim Walz DUI

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Duration: 00:59:43
RFK BACKS TRUMP
Aug 26, 2024

The Kultgens discuss:
1. The DNC
2. RFK Backing Trump
Bob's New Shoes
3. Kamala Winning The Internet
4. HIV Positive Military

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Duration: 00:55:37
The Debates Are Coming
Aug 18, 2024

In this episode the Kultgens discuss
1. The Debate Schedule
2. The DNC
Bob's New Hip
3. Trump's Sentencing
4. Elon Musk's Trump Interview

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Duration: 00:54:45
Bob's Broken Hip
Aug 04, 2024

The Kultgens discuss:
Bob's Broken Hip
Kamala Harris' Record Breaking Fundraising
Trump at the NABJ
JD Vance
Olympic Women's Boxing

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Duration: 01:05:32
KAMALA HARRIS HAS ALREADY WON
Jul 28, 2024

The Kultgens discuss
1. Biden Dropping Out And Endorsing Harris
2. The JD Vance Disaster
3. Trump Wants to Get Rid of Voting

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Duration: 01:00:48
JD Vance Hates Trump
Jul 22, 2024

The Kultgens Discuss:
The RNC
JD Vance
The Likelihood That Biden Will Drop Out

NOTE: This episode was recorded about 45 minutes before Biden dropped out.

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Duration: 01:01:14
The Trump Assassination
Jul 15, 2024

One topic this week. 

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Duration: 00:57:51
The Debate
Jul 01, 2024

The Kultgens Discuss
1. The Debate
2. The Transphobic Texas Supreme Court
3. Criminalizing Homelessness In Oregon

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Duration: 00:59:54
Happy Father's Day and Birthday
Jun 17, 2024

In this episode the Kultgens take a stroll down memory lane to remember some of the the greatest moments from Bob's fatherhood and Chad's time on this dying planet.

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Duration: 01:00:59
Biden's Border Policy
Jun 10, 2024

In this episode the Kultgens discuss:
1. Alvin Bragg To Testify Before Congress
2. Biden's Border Policy
3. Hunter Biden's Gun Trial
4. Gantz Resigns From Netanyahu's War Cabinet

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Duration: 00:53:38
Trump Is A Felon
Jun 03, 2024

The Kultgens Discuss:
1. Trump's 34 Felony Convictions
2. A possible End to the Genocide In Palestine
3. Abortion Ban In Texas
4. Kids and Social Media In Colorado

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Duration: 00:56:09
Libertarians Hate Trump
May 27, 2024

In this episode the Kultgens discuss:
1. Trump Booed By Libertarians
2. Trump Trial Expecting A Verdict Soon
3. Israeli Protests
4. Guns and Video Games

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Duration: 00:54:12
The Debates Are Coming!
May 20, 2024

The Kultgens discuss:
1. The upcoming debates
2. Trump at the NRA
3. Butker's speech
4. Israel's War Cabinet Woes

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Duration: 00:57:06
Happy Mother's Day!
May 13, 2024

Chad discusses motherhood with Haley and Mary Lou.

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Duration: 00:57:45
Trump Destroyed By Hope Hicks
May 06, 2024

This week the Kultgens discuss:
1. Wee 3 of the trump Trial
2. Trump Held in Contempt
3. College Protest Arrests
4. Biden vs. Trump

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Duration: 00:52:18
College Protests, Trump's Testimonies and a Dead Dog
Apr 29, 2024

This week the Kultgens discuss:
1. Trump's first week of testimony
2. The Supreme Court
3. College Protests
4. Noem's Dead Dog

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Duration: 00:55:53
Trump Trial Begins!
Apr 22, 2024

In this episode the Kultgens discuss:
1. Trump Trial
2. Tik Tok Bill
3. Mike Johnson
4. World War 3

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Duration: 00:56:53
A Conversation With Chad And Mary Lou
Apr 08, 2024

In this episode Chad and Mary Lou have an hour long conversation without discussing politics at all.

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Duration: 01:02:50
Biden's Transgender Easter
Apr 01, 2024

In this episode the Kultgens discuss
1. Biden's Transgender Visibility Proclamation
2. Biden Hogtied
We Don't Need Another Hero
3. Dali Cargo Ship Disaster
4. Trump's April Trial Date

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Duration: 00:51:11