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This week Jolenta takes a look at the character of Craig Conover from Southern Charm and how he fits into the Artist Archetype. And you know she gets into that evil alter ego and how the archetype shows up in mythology and a bunch of other reality shows.

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Ring in the new year the classic way - with hot takes on hot topics. For a New Year’s treat, Jolenta is serving takes hot enough to warm your heart on a cold winter’s day. All things reality are discussed, from Southern Charm to Sister Wives.

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As a holiday gift to you, Jolenta returns to her podcasting roots with a deep dive on a self-help book. She read Rich As F*ck, so you don’t have to - the money manifesting manual by the newest Real Housewife of Beverly Hills, Amanda Frances. Does the book offer any genuinely useful advice? Does it give scam vibes the same way Amanda does on TV? Let’s find out!

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Jolenta does a deep dive on The Recluse archetype and her evil twin, The Warlock. Turns out Kathy Hilton from The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills has a lot of reclusive tendencies, but watch yourself because you don’t want her warlock side to rear its ugly head.

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Jolenta is joined by Travis Rhoden from Bestie Approved for a crossover episode!  In honor of Jen Shah being released from prison, the two recap the infamous sprinter van raid from season 2 of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Travis used to be a finance bro, so he has some interesting takes on money laundering. And many iconic moments are covered: Mary calling Whitney “little girl,” the beginning of Meredith branding herself as a lady who loves baths, and Whitney Rose thinking Homeland Security is a pranking her.

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Jolenta is joined by the wonderful Gibson Johns (Gabbing with Gib) to talk about Aviva Drescher’s infamous leg toss from The Real Housewives of New York. They get into the backstory, dish on ghost writing rumors, and wax poetic about obviously self produced moments.

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For a Thanksgiving Day treat, Jolenta is doing a roundup of some of the latest reality TV hot topics and giving her hot takes. She covers everything from Kandi Burruss’s divorce to Kody Brown’s multiple divorces. Please note: Topics other than divorce will be discussed, such as The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, The Real  Housewives of Orange County, and more.

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The Mystic is a fun woo-woo archetype, but do not piss her off or else you’ll meet her evil side: the Betrayer.  How do each of these beauties show up in reality TV? Jolenta thinks Dorinda Medley from the Real Housewives of New York is the perfect example of the Mystic/Betrayer dichotomy.

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The wonderful Mary Payne Gilbert (Pink Shade) joins Jolenta to do a deep dive on the infamous Vanderpump Rules “slap” scene between Stassi Schroeder and Kristin Douse. And the two discuss why we’re so drawn to reality TV that showcases anti-aspirational living.

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She’s intense, she’s driven, and she might be here to save us all… or burn it all down. This week Jolenta draws parallels between the Savior/Destroyer archetype and Heather Gay’s journey on The Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

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Comedian Anna Roisman (Big Wigs) joins the show to talk about her favorite moments from Love is Blind season six: when Chelsea told Jimmy she gets told she looks like Megan Fox & when Jimmy realizes that may not be true. Anna and Jolenta breakdown the scenes and discuss why you shouldn’t try to break the unspoken rules of a reality show.

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Jolenta looks into the Maiden and Troubled Teen archetypes. And she does a deep dive on a Real Housewife that seems to embody this angsty ingénue:  Bronwyn from the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.

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Jolenta is joined by Nicole Spiezio (How Were U Brainwashed?) to discuss a pivotal RHONY Legacy scene - the scene where Bethenny tells Luann her fiancé cheated on her "at the Regency, in front of everybody.”

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Let’s do a deep dive on the Muse archetype, and her flirty evil twin the Femme Fatale. Parvati Shallow is the perfect example of both - and Jolenta has compiled some of Parv’s most seductive and cut-throat moments for your listening pleasure.

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Jolenta is joined by Amye Archer (Little Miss Recap) to discuss the explosive season 18 fight between Janelle and Kody Brown on Sister Wives. The two discuss breaking the 4th wall and narcissistic collapse, and Amye gives a stern warning for anyone who’s watching the new season of Sister Wives.

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Jolenta does a realty TV deep dive on the Amazon archetype and her evil alter ego, the Gorgon. And she explores how Bethenny Frankel lives her life Amazon style with some wild Gorgon flare.

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Jolenta is joined by Sarah Galli (Andy's Girls) to discuss the heartbreaking dissolution of the friendship between Bethenny Frankel and Carole Radziwill from the original Real Housewives of New York. Whose side were you on?

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Jolenta tries to make sense of what we’re seeing play out with Jenn Pedranti this season on The Real Housewives of Orange County. This leads to a deep dive on The Father’s Daughter archetype and her evil alter ego, The Backstabber. 

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Jolenta is joined by Eric Williams (That’s a Gay Ass Podcast) to talk about one of his favorite scenes from the original Real Housewives of New York. Is life really a cabaret if your boyfriend doesn’t get a ticket to the show? 

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Is she nurturing or over-controlling? When it comes to moms, it can be hard to tell. This week Jolenta looks at how mothers show up in The Real Housewives and Sister Wives.

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Jolenta is joined by comedy writer Chelsea Devantez (Glamorous Trash) to discuss the beautifully layered confrontation between Jessica and Amber on season 1 of Love is Blind.

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Jolenta explores how The Matriarch and her dark alter ego, The Scorned Woman, stir the pot on The Real Housewives and in Greek mythology.

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Jolenta is joined by reality TV expert/producer Chris DeRosa (Fixing Famous People) to discuss an iconic scene from The Real Housewives of Orange County. Together they explore how Tamra meeting her future daughter-in-law teaches us about the damage men can do with their silence, the rise of conservative ideology in America, the history of DM sliding, and so much more.

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Kristen and Jolenta announce the beginning of a new era! This includes:

–Jolenta’s new show, Hot Mess-terpiece Theatre, available in this very feed!

–Kristen’s new show, Pillow Talk, available exclusively at https://www.hatch.co/pillow-talk !

–The continuation of Kristen’s show, Health Matters from Mayo Clinic, available everywhere you get your favorite shows!

–The continuation of Dean & Kristen Look Back - the official By The Book recap show, exclusively at Patreon.com/listentobythebook ! 

Be sure to keep up with Kristen and Jolenta’s ongoing adventures at facebook.com/grou...

While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Dean and Kristen are looking back - episode by episode - at their time on By The Book. Today, they give behind-the-scenes stories and updates on How to Write an Ebook in less than 7 to 14 Days that Will Make You Money Forever, by Darren Ackers. To hear the full episode, get biweekly episodes of Dean & Kristen Look Back, listen to our complete Patreon-only bonus season of By The Book, read our weekly advice column, access the written rules of every book we've lived by, and more, visit Patreon.com/ListenToByTheBook.

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While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Dean and Kristen are looking back - episode by episode - at their time on By The Book. Today, they give behind-the-scenes stories and updates on Class with the Countess, by Luann de Lesseps. To hear the full episode, get biweekly episodes of Dean & Kristen Look Back, listen to our complete Patreon-only bonus season of By The Book, read our weekly advice column, access the written rules of every book we've lived by, and more, visit Patreon.com/ListenToByTheBook.

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While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Dean and Kristen are looking back - episode by episode - at their time on By The Book. Today, they give behind-the-scenes stories and updates on Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus, by John Gray, PhD. To hear the full episode, get biweekly episodes of Dean & Kristen Look Back, listen to our complete Patreon-only bonus season of By The Book, read our weekly advice column, access the written rules of every book we've lived by, and more, visit Patreon.com/ListenToByTheBook.

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While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Dean and Kristen are looking back - episode by episode - at their time on By The Book. Today, they give behind-the-scenes stories and updates on America's Cheapest Family Gets You Right on the Money, by Steve and Annette Economides. To hear the full episode, get biweekly episodes of Dean & Kristen Look Back, listen to our complete Patreon-only bonus season of By The Book, read our weekly advice column, access the written rules of every book we've lived by, and more, visit Patreon.com/ListenToByTheBook.

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While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Dean and Kristen are looking back - episode by episode - at their time on By The Book. Today, they give behind-the-scenes stories and updates on Past Lives, Future Healing, by Sylvia Brown. To hear the full episode, get biweekly episodes of Dean & Kristen Look Back, listen to our complete Patreon-only bonus season of By The Book, read our weekly advice column, access the written rules of every book we've lived by, and more, visit Patreon.com/ListenToByTheBook.

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While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

While they’re between seasons, Jolenta and Kristen are thrilled to share a very special series that - up until now - was only available behind a paywall. It’s called By The Book Authors Tell All, and features authors whose books they lived by, as well as some authors they just happen to love. 

And for more great By The Book content, listen to Dean & Kristen Look Back, exclusively on Patreon! In each episode, Dean and Kristen revisit their time on By The Book, share behind-the-scenes secrets, and give updates on their lives. Patreon is also the h...

*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Dean and Kristen are looking back - episode by episode - at their time on By The Book. Today, they give behind-the-scenes stories and updates on The Memory Book, by Harry Lorayne and Jerry Lucas. To hear the full episode, get biweekly episodes of Dean & Kristen Look Back, listen to our complete Patreon-only bonus season of By The Book, read our weekly advice column, access the written rules of every book we've lived by, and more, visit Patreon.com/ListenToByTheBook.

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Jolenta and Kristen read some of the many stories you’ve shared about the topics we’ve recently covered on the show - including being jealous of friends, dealing with friend burnout, and making friends post college.

They also announce By The Book: Authors Tell All - a newly available series that will land right in this feed starting next week.

Reminder: There's lots more of us on Patreon - including our biweekly podcast series Dean & Kristen Look Back, where we do just that: Look back at our time on By The Book, episode by epis...

Jolenta and Kristen try on a tip from David Klein, record audio diaries, report back. 

We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    

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*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Dean and Kristen are looking back - episode by episode - at their time on By The Book. Today, they give behind-the-scenes stories and updates on French Women Don't Get Fat, by Mireille Guiliano. To hear the full episode, get biweekly episodes of Dean & Kristen Look Back, listen to our complete Patreon-only bonus season of By The Book, read our weekly advice column, access the written rules of every book we've lived by, and more, visit Patreon.com/ListenToByTheBook.

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Sometimes - as much as we hate to admit it - we feel insecure around certain friends - or even jealous of them. What’s the best way to cope with these feelings? David Klein, close friend and cousin of Winona Ryder, and author of “The Plus One,” shares his thoughts. 

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Jolenta and Kristen try on Hope Kelaher’s tips for making friends post-college.

We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com   

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*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Dean and Kristen are looking back - episode by episode - at their time on By The Book. Today, they give behind-the-scenes stories and updates on The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up, by Marie Kondo. To hear the full episode, get biweekly episodes of Dean & Kristen Look Back, listen to our complete Patreon-only bonus season of By The Book, read our weekly advice column, access the written rules of every book we've lived by, and more, visit Patreon.com/ListenToByTheBook.

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Why does it seem so much easier to make friends when we’re younger? And how can we make friends more easily as we become adults? Hope Kelaher, author of Here to Make Friends: How To Make Friends as an Adult, shares her wisdom.

We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com   

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Jolenta and Kristen try on a tip from Amy Wilson, record audio diaries, report back. 

We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com    

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*Patreon-only Bonus Episode Teaser* Dean and Kristen are looking back - episode by episode - at their time on By The Book, beginning with The Secret by Rhonda Byrne. To hear the full episode, get biweekly episodes of Dean & Kristen Look Back, listen to our complete Patreon-only bonus season of By The Book, read our weekly advice column, access the written rules of every book we've lived by, and more, visit Patreon.com/ListenToByTheBook.

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Friends are great. But they can also be exhausting. What’s the best way to strike the balance between being there and burning out? Amy Wilson, author of Happy To Help: Adventures of a People Pleaser, and cohost of What Fresh Hell, shares her thoughts. 

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Jolenta and Kristen read some of the many stories you’ve shared about the topics we’ve recently covered on the show - AI friends, friends with kids, and platonic significant others. 

We want to hear from you! Share your own experiences with friendship and loneliness on our private facebook community: facebook.com/groups/kristenandjolenta or write to us at kristenandjolenta@gmail.com   

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Jolenta and Kristen try on a tip from Ophira Eisenberg, record audio diaries, report back. 

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Is it possible to hold onto friendship after one of you has kids and the other doesn't? Ophira Eisenberg, host of the podcasts Parenting is a Joke and Ask Me Another, shares her thoughts. 

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Jolenta and Kristen try on Rhaina Cohen’s tips for nurturing their other significant others.  

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For some of us, our greatest life partner isn’t a spouse, it’s a friend. How can we make the most of these kinds of partnerships? Jolenta and Kristen get tips from Rhaina Cohen, author of The Other Significant Others: Reimagining Life with Friendship at the Center.

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Jolenta and Kristen try on Lindsay Goldwart’s tips for befriending chatbots. 

What do they have to offer? And do they really help, or make things worse?

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For some people, chatbots have become a source of comfort in the fight against loneliness. What do they have to offer? And do they really help, or make things worse? Jolenta and Kristen get tips for Lindsay Goldwert, journalist and chatbot friend. 

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Jolenta and Kristen read some of the many stories you’ve shared about the topics we’ve recently covered on the show.

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Ellie Schnitt and Michaela Okland’s tips for navigating friendship with exes.

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What are the benefits and drawbacks of staying friends with exes? And what’s the best way to set up this kind of friendship for success? Jolenta and Kristen get tips from Ellie Schnitt and Michaela Okland, hosts of the Late Night Drive podcast.

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Maya Lau’s tips for navigating friendship and money.

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What’s the best way to navigate the sometimes treacherous waters of friends and money? Jolenta and Kristen get tips from Maya Lau, host of the podcast Other People’s Pockets.  

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Jon Levy’s tips for making the most of parties.

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Parties can be a lot of fun, but they can also be anxiety inducing. How can we have the most fun at parties? And how can we host parties where people feel encouraged to socialize and maybe even make friends? Jolenta and Kristen get tips from Jon Levy, Founder of the Influencers Dinner, and author of the book “You're Invited: The Art and Science of Connection, Trust, and Belonging.”

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Aliza Kelly’s tips for making the most of astrology in friendship.

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What’s your sign? Is it compatible with mine? Is our friendship written in the stars? Jolenta and Kristen talk astrology and friendship with Aliza Kelly, astrologer and author of several books, including “Starring You: A Guided Journey Through Astrology.” Aliza also hosts the new podcast Horoscope Weekly with Aliza Kelly.

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Eric Zimmer’s tips for navigating friendship ups and downs. 

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Friendships are comforting and fun in the best of times. But what about during the worst of times? How do we keep our friends close when things aren’t going our way? Jolenta and Kristen get tips from Eric Zimmer, host of The One You Feed podcast.  

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Celeste Headlee’s tips for navigating friendship and politics.

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How do I make or maintain friendships across political divides? Should I even try? Jolenta and Kristen get tips from Celeste Headlee, author of “We Need to Talk: How to Have Conversations That Matter” and “Speaking of Race: Why We Need to Talk About Race-and How to Do It Effectively.”

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Kat Vellos’s tips for turning acquaintances into friends. 

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How can we turn that person we barely know - but like - into a real friend? And how can we deepen the friendships we already have? Jolenta and Kristen get tips from Kat Vellos, author of “We Should Get Together: The Secret to Cultivating Better Friendships." 

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Dr. Jeffrey Hall’s tips for using social media to feel less alone.

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Media - and social media in particular - is often pointed to as a culprit in our loneliness. Why is this? And are there ways to better harness the power of social media to feel less alone? Kristen and Jolenta get insights from Dr. Jeffrey Hall, author of Relating Through Technology.

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Laura Tremaine’s tips for building and nurturing their friend councils. 

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Society often celebrates the BFF, the squad, or the busload of besties. But Laura Tremaine has a different take. She believes our lives are richer when we have a variety of unique friends to love and lean on - even if those friends never meet each other. She shares her philosophy with Jolenta and Kristen, and in her book, The Life Council: 10 Friends Every Woman Needs. 

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Dr. Jeremy Nobel’s tips for enjoying their own company. 

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According to Dr. Jeremy Nobel, author of Project Unlonely, "at its core, a true sense of loneliness results from a disconnection to the self." But what does he mean by disconnection? What causes this kind of disconnection? And steps can we take to develop a good relationship with ourselves? Dr. Nobel stops by to share his findings. 

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Liz Craft and Sarah Fain’s tips for working together as friends. 

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When is it a good idea to mix friendship and work? What are the benefits and drawbacks of working with a friend? And what can we do to ensure both the work and the friendship succeed when the two are mixed? Liz Craft and Sarah Fain, BFFs and business partners, share their wisdom.

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Jolenta and Kristen try on some of Chelsea Devantez’s tips for considering and coping with BFF breakups.

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Breaking up with friends is an oft-experienced but rarely talked about topic. How can we assess whether certain friendships are no longer healthy? And when is a breakup warranted? Chelsea Devantez, author of “I shouldn’t be telling you this, but I am anyway,” shares her thoughts. 

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Jolenta and Kristen try some of Dr. Adrienne Wood’s tips for making the most of their social networks. 

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What is a social network - other than a movie? Does my social network include just friends - or also acquaintances and neighbors? And what makes a social network healthy or unhealthy? Walking us through these questions is Dr. Adrienne Wood. 

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Kristen and Jolenta try some of Dr. Carrie Henning-Smith’s tips for bridging the geographic friendship divide, record audio diaries, and report back. 

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How is the geography of our world set up to make us more or less lonely? And how can we bridge the divide when we’re apart from those we love? Dr. Carrie Henning-Smith shares her insights, whose research focuses on how the environment impacts health from the immediate living environment to the broader geographical context.

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Kristen and Jolenta try some of Dr. Louise Hawkley’s loneliness tips on for size, record audio diaries, and report back. 

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We’re back with a whole new season of How To Be Fine dedicated to the loneliness epidemic - with topics ranging from finding peace with solitude to making friends as an adult to breaking up with BFFs. Kicking things off is a conversation with Dr. Louise Hawkley, a field-leading expert on loneliness and social isolation who works with the National Opinion Research Center.

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Kristen and Jolenta are back with a whole new season of How to Be Fine dedicated to the topics of friendship and loneliness in the modern age. Along the way, they'll talk with esteemed experts. But even better: They'll put different friend-making methods to the test, acting as guinea pigs in their own social experiments. Join them as they laugh, learn, and awkwardly attempt to make new friends and deepen the friendships they already have. 

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On this episode of How to Be Fine - Kristen and Jolenta share listeners’ reactions to the New Year, Same Old BS mini series. Plus, they make a special announcement!

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On the final episode of How to Be Fine’s special series - New Year, Same Old BS - Kristen and Jolenta talk about the history of tobacco and weight loss marketing. Plus, they offer up advice on how to communicate more clearly as a new manager, and when to consider a therapist's techniques as red flags.

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On this episode of How to Be Fine’s special series - New Year, Same Old BS - Kristen and Jolenta talk about a handful of the many Christian Diet plans. Plus, they offer up advice for dealing with jealous feelings, and finding the right therapist.

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On this episode of How to Be Fine’s special series - New Year, Same Old BS - Kristen and Jolenta uncover the surprising history of the Tapeworm diet. Plus, they offer up advice on how to accept a post-birth body, and how to get over unrequited love.

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On the first episode of How to Be Fine’s special series - New Year, Same Old BS - Kristen and Jolenta dig into the Cabbage Soup Diet. Plus, they offer up advice on how to wake up with more energy, and how to keep in-laws out of reproductive matters.

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On this mini episode of How to Be Fine, Kristen and Jolenta have a conversation with special guest: screenwriter Juliet Giglio. Plus, they share listener feedback on Made-For-TV Holiday Movies and New Year’s Resolutions.

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